tx4cabbie Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Took my Browning auto5 clay shooting on Sunday, and found it shoots high, quite markedly so. My other guns are all shooting about 60/40 above/below the point of aim, but this full fixed choke gun is putting the whole pattern at least a hand above the point of aim at 30 yards or so. I don't think I'm raising my head off the comb, I tried shooting some static clays and it shot high then too. It's a 300 quid gun, so having it fitted is a nonstarter , is there anything else I could do? Thinking about adding a recoil pad, as the bakelite butt plate was not comfortable over the morning, possibly an Isis green pad- might this help, if I add some length to the stock? Any advise appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Try adding a little to the butt. Don't forget to check poi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) hello, maybe the LOP and stock are not correct, as cookoff said you may need some extra length on butt to bring gun up to correct eye level, try a pattern plate with a local clay shoot then they will tell you how the stock needs doing, a cheap way is what i did on a side by side, i am 14.5 inch LOP the said gun is 13.75 so i bought a cheap rubber slip pad 1/2 inch or 12.5mm and packed out to correct size and just just sticky tape on, brown sparky tape Edited July 25, 2018 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Aim low, that's the cheap alternative if you will not spend the money to have it fitted. Edited July 25, 2018 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Had a trap gun back in the early 70s which did the same. I just learned to perch them and problem solved. If you know where the pattern is going and it is consistent you can plan your shooting accordingly or go the expensive way and have the stock re figure/fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex gardener Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Would a high rib help? I have seen magnetic ones that you stick to the existing rib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 I wonder how a magnetic rib would fare on the long recoil barrel. I had to lift my head a little on my Auto-5 but after having to buy an aftermarket stock that helped things, I think the comb was slightly higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 The add a little length advice is good advice, other less obvious are its warm you probably were lightly dressed, get some cold weather clothes on it could move POI up, and not seen the gun but its still got the front ramp on the barrel for the bead if knowingly or by instinct your sighting off the reviever a bead on the barrel with no ramp will present high shooting too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Before you do or spend ANYTHING, why not get the fit checked by someone who knows what they are doing ? Most shooting grounds have an Instructor who is reasonably capable of advising you regarding the fit of the gun. In the meantime , try standing some 5/6feet away from a longish mirror, starting with the gun stock tucked just under your armpit and the barrel pointing straight ahead. Close your eyes and mount the gun into your shoulder, then open your eyes and check where your eye is in relation to the rib of the gun. You should be able to see the whole of your eye, but none of your cheek, over the rib. This is only a guide, but a decent Instructor should be able to advise you, after watching you mounting and shooting the gun. You could also try some 'springing teal' type clay target. Normally with a flat shooting gun you would need to shoot over this target to break it, this entails losing it under the barrel. IF you need to shoot under the target, and are still be able to see it in order to hit it, it is a safe bet that your gun is shooting high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Another point worth mentioning the old Brownin g Auto 5s had a fair amount of drop on the stock mounting could be your problem. cheap rubber comb raiser might help if you can not adapt to it as it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Take a little advice regarding your mount and stock length . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted July 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Thanks for the advice, will give all these suggestions a try. I actually have a pachmayer deccelerator slip on pad which adds an inch to the lop. Bought for a very recoil sensitive lady, but the increase in lop was too much. Been planning to try it on the auto 5, as the bakelite butt plate is a real bruiser, but another club member has just got his ticket and bought an ata with a wooden butt plate, and he's about 7ft tall, and was crestfallen the new gun didn't fit well and hurt to shoot 50 birds. Figured his need was greater etc, so will get it back from him and try it soon. It's not a huge issue, I've a 682 gold e that fits well, armsan 612 that after a shim was added is shooting to point of aim, I just love the Browning, and would like to be proficient with it. Will work on it, cheers chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just take a sander to the comb and lower it a bit ... My old man did that with a brand new Perazzi !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Smokersmith said: Just take a sander to the comb and lower it a bit ... My old man did that with a brand new Perazzi !!! I agree with this in practice but i also agree that the old A5s had a low comb, the fact its high shooting i think it will be short in the stock rather than a high comb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, B B said: I agree with this in practice but i also agree that the old A5s had a low comb, the fact its high shooting i think it will be short in the stock rather than a high comb. ☝️This , try to lengthen the LOP a bit you may find it works wonders . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Unusual for an auto-5 i have 3 of them and they all shoot flat or quite low being low combed. Sure your mounting it properly?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted July 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Think so, but to be fair I'm built like a gorilla using a brick outhouse, to mix my mangled metaphors, so could be my lack of neck or excess of shoulder that's giving me problems. Next shoot will try the pad, and mount in different manners, and see if that helps. Found some old lining paper so will be patterning too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 The humpback design takes a bit of getting used to i found. i hardly see any rib on mine if i mount it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted October 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Finally got the chance to pattern the Browning auto 5 on Sunday, just had a new kitchen fitted so had a load of large sheets of cardboard ideal for the job. Put 2 sheets out at about 25 of my large steps, so about 22 yards I'm guessing, which is the distance from one of our stands to the treeline where we shoot rabbit clays. Shot 3 shells into the mark on the cardboard with the gun unmodified, then 3 into the other sheet with a pachmayer deccelerator slip on recoil pad, which adds an inch to the lop. The gun is obviously short for me, as my pattern was about a foot or so higher without the pad. I think the next step is to buy a 25mm pad, from kick-eez,limbsaver, pachmayer, or isis, and grind it to fit. Do we have any recommendations as to which company to use? Do any have issues i shoukd avoid? Ive an old limbsaver on my greener gp, but it's gone a bit gooey, is this something anyone else has experienced? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Cut up some card and add some length with it, that way you can confirm how much additional length you need and buy the correct pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Do they not have shims to alter it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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