wildfowler.250 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 So I’m looking at ordering a mcmillan rifle stock from the states. If anyone has similar experience ordering stuff like this from shops across the pond, how much do you tend to get hit as an extra when it arrives here? It’s never just the price and postage as advertised so thought folk on here might have useful tips or suggestions? I do have a mate based in Canada. I could potentially post to his address and then send it across from there or not worth the hassle? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Christopher Jones Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Quote Duty + VAT + Post Office charge for handling the first 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Ah okay. So VAT is say 20%. What do you get hit for duty? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, wildfowler.250 said: Ah okay. So VAT is say 20%. What do you get hit for duty? Thank you! I believe it’s very unpredictable at times, depends who opens the packages. Can always be an option to go through a regular importer eg Edgar Brothers? Welshwarrior (Daf) off here ordered a stock from the US for me last time. The company sent the wrong stock, and he sorted it all. Fair play to him. Id send him a message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 ITAR rules? David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old melv Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 I ordered a Boyds stock from America and they would not ship to the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Shipping from the USA direct from the supplier is getting more difficult every year. Used to be so easy. I think even Cabela's will not now ship. A few years since I did deals over there and usually when the stuff arrived, mainly rifles, then as said an import duty, back then it was 12% on the total cost including shipping and then VAT on top of that. When the dollar was around 1.90 to the pound it was worthwhile but no good dels today I'm afraid. I tend to have anyhting I need shipped to a friend over there and then shipped on to me. My 410 reloading dies came that way because the firm would not ship them to the UK. Similarly with firearms you need and export license and back in the early 90s it was $50 for the whole package, now it has been put up to $250 for the same paperwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Thanks guys, as usual you’re on the ball. Having read this and pinged an email to McMillan its $120 to UK, plus an ITAR permit of £250,(despite it just being a stock). Seems easier to go through an actual shop here as suggested. What a faff.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Jackson Rifles stock (🤣) McMillan http://www.jacksonrifles.com/ cheers fizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Cheers! Did have a look at theirs but they don’t have the correct inlet currently. Looks like I’ll have to go via them anyway now.. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Most US suppliers wont ship to anywhere outside US any more because they don't want the hassle and fear the ITAR rules even if it doesn't actually apply. Import duty into the UK has every appearance of being a random figure plucked from thin air by a disinterested clerk who doesn't read the paperwork Sometimes its nothing because they can't be bothered. Other times I have been charged way over but you can't appeal unless its over £2.5K. Then the Post Office charges you £20 (?) to collect it. I stopped importing stuff from US some years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 14 hours ago, wildfowler.250 said: Cheers! Did have a look at theirs but they don’t have the correct inlet currently. Looks like I’ll have to go via them anyway now.. thanks! Do you know anyone in the states that could order it and then send to you as a gift? I did this through a friend in the uk who had a friend in the states for a dozen full body flocked Canada decoys in 2017. Avoided all duty., just sent the money to my friend who sent it on to his in the states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Careful Penelope what you are suggesting here would be of great interest to HMRC, having worked in import and export of military goods for many years I can assure you that it can be done just as long as you follow the rules The U S dealer might have to get an export licence and you as importer would need to declare the goods to Customs but if it’s shipped via DHL or FedEx they can do this for you Duty payable depends on the commodity code applicable to the goods and then there’s VAT on top plus a charge for the declaration to HMRC but it can save you money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 There's quite a good thread on here from a few months ago ... a quick search will find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Penelope said: Do you know anyone in the states that could order it and then send to you as a gift? I did this through a friend in the uk who had a friend in the states for a dozen full body flocked Canada decoys in 2017. Avoided all duty., just sent the money to my friend who sent it on to his in the states. Gifts are still charged duty, there is no exemption from duty for gifts. Duty is based on the value of the goods not whether (or what) you say you are paying for them. They are well aware of that old trick, they are just as likely to charge you a steep estimate if you don't put a proper declaration of value on the paperwork. You must have just been lucky they couldn't be bothered to chase it up Edited June 20, 2019 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) hello, i bought some items from the USA ,a gun shop right out in the wilds of Michigan, called Squirrel claws, sent normal post and never had any UK duty or vat, not the same with an ATN night vision scope, cost nearly as much for import as the scope, then it broke !!!!!!!, not my best purchase advice to my self !!!!!! Edited June 19, 2019 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 McMillan are gash anyway, get an HS Precision. Already in stock here Barton GunWorks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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