Muddy Funker Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Hi Guys. Bit of a random one. We're fortunate enough to have some land we can set aside for hay. Simple enough question I guess, farmer comes in and does everything, cut, rake and bale. What would be a fair deal for both of us with regards to us keeping a percentage? Thanks in advance 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Usually half each as far as I'm aware. Fella I know does his own and others and that's the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Yeah, I've heard half before. But it depends a bit how much ground you have to cut, as if its just a couple of acres and awkward shape you might struggle to find someone keen, especially this year as there are big crops of grass about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted June 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Cheers guys appreciate the replies. It's more than a few acres and lay out is simple. It was first time last year and I had no idea so just kept enough for our use over winter. So it's fair to say my good nature was taken advange of. This won't be happening again 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Super- get it down in this weather window! Waiting on contractor but should be mowing here tomorrow, will be a lot more bales than last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted June 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Teal said: Super- get it down in this weather window! Waiting on contractor but should be mowing here tomorrow, will be a lot more bales than last year! That's the beauty of it, his problem 😂 It's gone a bit mental though certainly needs doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 My last horse permission used to pay £1 a standard 36" small bale. That's a couple of years ago. 300-400 bales depending. Cut, turned as necessary, rowed and baled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Over here you have to give the grass away for free. They cut it and take it and you get you field cut for free. But I reckon that has do to the abundant availabllity of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Whatever fellas, hurry up because this great hay making spell will not last long. You need five good days minimum to make good hay, with no rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Praying that they cur our 11 acres this evening. Father in law gets taken for a bit of a ride over it but we keep as much as we want and the farmer takes the rest. But hes supposed to do the hedges and field maintenance which he does I'm a fashion. If/when we inherit the ground there will be a renegotiation. If hell do it for you get him to make you big bale haylage. Not the massive stuff you cant push about unless you've got a tractor. It's easier to store, has better feed value and makes quicker although you need to leave it a few weeks to make in the bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) If we get good weather rest of summer you feed the grass you may get a second cut. Not as good as first cut but still extra hay. Edited July 1, 2019 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Farmer we share our shooting ground with always leaves it as long as possible, last year it was really past it’s best when he cut it. He could get 2 cuts if he cut it at the right time but doesn’t bother 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) hello, there is not much money in baled hay unless you need for your own use like winter sheep or cattle, on my friends farm they get another farmer and friend in to do around 500 to1000 small bales and take half free, they do this on quite a few farms to sell for winter feed and horse owners, they just like using their vintage machinery. oh and just sold a 30 acre field for housing, Edited July 1, 2019 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Benthejockey said: Praying that they cur our 11 acres this evening. Father in law gets taken for a bit of a ride over it but we keep as much as we want and the farmer takes the rest. But hes supposed to do the hedges and field maintenance which he does I'm a fashion. If/when we inherit the ground there will be a renegotiation. If hell do it for you get him to make you big bale haylage. Not the massive stuff you cant push about unless you've got a tractor. It's easier to store, has better feed value and makes quicker although you need to leave it a few weeks to make in the bags. A few years ago now I happened to be on a next door farm when a machinery company came to test run a small round bale baler. It was just like a small version of the big balers but turned out a small round bale which you could pick up and move about with ease, perfect for tthe pony owners. I never did see this come into production but to me it semed a very good idea.as lasses looking after their horses could easily roll one to where they needed it if they couldn't carry it and there was not the problem as with many hay bales where the strings loosen up and the bale falls apart. Edited July 1, 2019 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 A few farms here on levels get paid to leave the cut till late to improve wild flowers / wild bird nesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Haylage prices here vary so hugely each year it’s hard to say what an entirely straight deal could be. Three years back £20 a big round, last summer it hit £125 a big round with a minimum order of an hgv trailer full. What have prices been like historically where you are? We are quite lucky that the livery place we use get more than enough off their own land to cover each years use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 Anyone daft enough to pay £125 for a round bale needs to give there carer tri3 money to look after. I got some massive square bales at £40 a bale which was good but the following week somebody with a pony had told him he was too cheap so he upped it to £60 a bale which I declined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Benthejockey said: Anyone daft enough to pay £125 for a round bale needs to give there carer tri3 money to look after. I got some massive square bales at £40 a bale which was good but the following week somebody with a pony had told him he was too cheap so he upped it to £60 a bale which I declined. They were trucking the stuff in from Spain last year. We had a terrible harvest locally but I think things were much better in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Wb123 said: They were trucking the stuff in from Spain last year. We had a terrible harvest locally but I think things were much better in England. Are you in mevagissey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 There should be a good harvest this year with the rain and sun we've had. Unless we get lots of bad weather ruining it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted July 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 It is a bit of a tricky one, obviously it costs a fair amount to make but it's obviously worth his while. I'm not looking to make any huge sum just keep what is deemed fair. If 50/50 is snubbed I'll just top it, no drama to me. I think highest price for a large round bale last year was £40-50. If you asked for £125 a round bale you'd be laughed out of the country, that's an insane price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave-G said: Are you in mevagissey? Northern Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 £40/bale for 4 string hay was a fair price for hay last winter in the SW, some more some less. Works out about £140-150/t. Hay is too cheap most years, but stock farmers can't pay higher prices and horses can't eat it all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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