Respect for the Police

[pigeon controller]

Following on from Team Tractors post , I have a Rant , I apologise if it offends any body but it's personnel .

My Father was a local village copper , I went to the local school and had to take the flack sometimes as he would catch someone give them a smack around the head and take them home to their dad who did the same. He would rather do that than the paperwork. If anything went down in the locality he would know who did it. If he saw a vehicle with the driver worse for wear he would escort them home , and a bag of meat would be hung on the door knocker of the Police house. He was my hero , bought me my first air rifle to shoot the rats at the chicken pen at the bottom of the garden along with the future police inspector in the police house next door. Bought me my first shotgun, after giving up his shotgun as a condition of me being born, hero.

In his later years when the altzimers kicked in he would think I was his brother and talk about all the things I would not expect him to do as kids, this made him human to me. I felt the leather strap of his trouncheon a few times when my cheekiness went too far or I tried to lie to him. DId me know harm I would visit him in the local home every night as we could not cope with the excessive weight  ( 26 stone, 18 stone and fit in the force) and we would go through the key holders of the high street and their addresses. All this information locked away in his brain but he did not recognise me..

When his granddaughter tried to follow in his footsteps she applied , Blue eyes blond hair , we have lots of you can you say you are bi-sexuall we need some of these . She became a Special, I Know a Hobby Copper but that was the only way in, but straight in they sent her to the wonderful district of Nechells in Birmingham to sort out a domestic between a Somalie family which the husband will not accept her authority!!!!!!

I know Walker 570 knew my Dad , I'm not sure in what context but they were in the force together at on time . The respect for the Police has diminished but who would want to Police the current state of idiots around. 

 If you have chance please respect your parents for they did the best as they could and if possible thank them.

I sorry for this Rant but the three pints of cider in the local bar have got to me , I'm not here for the cider just the Wi Fi . 

 

Thanks Folks , Rant Over.

 

Edited September 14, 2019 by pigeon controller

[sam triple]

Wouldn’t call that a rant ,more of explaining how things were 

[ditchman]

well at least this year you are stuck in a bar on cider..........not like last year when you got board and set fire to Greece ...

[team tractor]

My wife is a special , she’s trying her hardest to become a REG. She failed by 1% last year after a 9 hour round trip / drive to Durham and 6 hour test between. 

This year they have told her she hasn’t the grades needed now  So she’s had to go back to college for at least 1-2 years . She’s fine while she’s foc tho  . 

For anyone wondering what a special is it’s exactly the same job as a regular but unpaid. She can drive and arrest as normal. 

Shes only young (26) so she has the time luckily but most fail 2-3 times we have been told.

 

the stuff she has to see is bad and then working the next morning at ALDI. 

I’m so proud of her and I believe she’s making a difference.

 

[Walker570]

12 minutes ago, team tractor said:

My wife is a special , she’s trying her hardest to become a REG. She failed by 1% last year after a 9 hour round trip / drive to Durham and 6 hour test between. 

This year they have told her she hasn’t the grades needed now  So she’s had to go back to college for at least 1-2 years . She’s fine while she’s foc tho  . 

For anyone wondering what a special is it’s exactly the same job as a regular but unpaid. She can drive and arrest as normal. 

Shes only young (26) so she has the time luckily but most fail 2-3 times we have been told.

 

the stuff she has to see is bad and then working the next morning at ALDI. 

I’m so proud of her and I believe she’s making a difference.

 

Trouble is she doesn't want to be Chief Constable just do the job.  I had a few 30yrs ago with this fast tract promotion lark. They would cut an artery if they could have promotion and most couldn't make a spare of the moment decision without checking ther CV. They never became part of 'The Team'.   I feel for her because I am sure she would make a superb copper.

When I joined there was a selection from ex Grenadier Guardsmen to Farm Workers and I worked with one or two farm workers and they where some of the best. 

The whole situation has gone to the dogs. with one police officer having to stop and ask my wife where a derelict cottage was in the village down the road. When she asked where he was from he had travelled 14 miles to get there, thet is from our closest police station......errrr, sorry JUSTICE CENTRE.

NOW THAT WAS A RANT.

Edited September 14, 2019 by Walker570

[team tractor]

1 hour ago, Walker570 said:

Trouble is she doesn't want to be Chief Constable just do the job.  I had a few 30yrs ago with this fast tract promotion lark. They would cut an artery if they could have promotion and most couldn't make a spare of the moment decision without checking ther CV. They never became part of 'The Team'.   I feel for her because I am sure she would make a superb copper.

When I joined there was a selection from ex Grenadier Guardsmen to Farm Workers and I worked with one or two farm workers and they where some of the best. 

The whole situation has gone to the dogs. with one police officer having to stop and ask my wife where a derelict cottage was in the village down the road. When she asked where he was from he had travelled 14 miles to get there, thet is from our closest police station......errrr, sorry JUSTICE CENTRE.

NOW THAT WAS A RANT.

Your right nev, she just wants to be a basic officer . Nothing special but a regular officer. 

Shes been asked about being a deputy manager at ALDI but her hearts a police officer 

[pigeon controller]

2 hours ago, ditchman said:

well at least this year you are stuck in a bar on cider..........not like last year when you got board and set fire to Greece ...

Only just because I've mislaid my Lighter????

 

They had  the fires three weeks before I came down on the island opposite on Evia, when my son was here???????

[London Best]

@ Pigeon Controller:

My childhood mirrors yours exactly. Not easy growing up as the local copper’s son.

My old man finished with dementia too.

[pigeon controller]

I can remember some of the " Fast Track " crowd poping  in for a brew with my Dad when I was making up a track bike from bits from the salvage down the road . " How did you know how  to put them together"  talk about streetwise!!!!!

From what I can remember they spent a week in the cars for " For Knowledge" 

At least the future Inspector next door was a " Shooting and Fishing Man" and could scrump apples and plums with the best of them!!

8 minutes ago, London Best said:

@ Pigeon Controller:

My childhood mirrors yours exactly. Not easy growing up as the local copper’s son.

My old man finished with dementia too.

RESPECT.

14 minutes ago, team tractor said:

Your right nev, she just wants to be a basic officer . Nothing special but a regular officer. 

Shes been asked about being a deputy manager at ALDI but her hearts a police officer 

Wish her all the best and keep at it , it's not a job it's a vocation. In hindsight I wish I'd had a go for it.

I had a girl work with me in Rugby who was an Inspector in the Specials and it took her some time to get in .

[team tractor]

1 hour ago, pigeon controller said:

I can remember some of the " Fast Track " crowd poping  in for a brew with my Dad when I was making up a track bike from bits from the salvage down the road . " How did you know how  to put them together"  talk about streetwise!!!!!

From what I can remember they spent a week in the cars for " For Knowledge" 

At least the future Inspector next door was a " Shooting and Fishing Man" and could scrump apples and plums with the best of them!!

RESPECT.

Wish her all the best and keep at it , it's not a job it's a vocation. In hindsight I wish I'd had a go for it.

I had a girl work with me in Rugby who was an Inspector in the Specials and it took her some time to get in .

They now retire at 57 I heard so I’ll be almost 69 . At least we will get some time together. 

I told her I’ll do what I can and that includes a few trips to Durham for assessments . I’m positive she’ll get in but when is another matter.

😎👍👍👍

[Fuddster]

Good post PC-lot to be said for 'Coppering from yester-year.

Hats off to any specials leaving family etc to go out a help out on shift for £0.00p.

f.

 

[Mice!]

7 hours ago, pigeon controller said:

I sorry for this Rant but the three pints of cider in the local bar have got to me , I'm not here for the cider just the Wi Fi . 

Don't see how that is a rant fella, just remembering how things were done.

I play rugby with a few lads who are coppers and it's a much different job these days.

2 hours ago, team tractor said:

I told her I’ll do what I can and that includes a few trips to Durham for assessments . I’m positive she’ll get in but when is another matter.

I'm sure they fail them deliberately to make sure that they want it and because their doing the job for free.

[team tractor]

33 minutes ago, Mice! said:

Don't see how that is a rant fella, just remembering how things were done.

I play rugby with a few lads who are coppers and it's a much different job these days.

I'm sure they fail them deliberately to make sure that they want it and because their doing the job for free.

I know loads that have failed 2-3 times then got in

[Westley]

3 hours ago, team tractor said:

They now retire at 57 I heard so I’ll be almost 69 . At least we will get some time together. 

I told her I’ll do what I can and that includes a few trips to Durham for assessments . I’m positive she’ll get in but when is another matter.

😎👍👍👍

Tell her to hang in there, her determination will win in the end. My Granddaughters boyfriend was accepted in Merseyside last year. He had been a Special, applying annually to get into the force. He did everything that was asked of him, including losing 2 stone in weight. Finally he became a CPSO, which he did for some 4 years, still applying annually for the regular force. Last year he was accepted and took a pay drop of some £3,000 pa. he is still undergoing training, but loves the job.  Things are very different now,  to the ways that Walker570 and I were used to Policing, and in fact I would probably get locked up  !  There is just no way that I would have been spoken to,  in the manner that Bobbies have to endure today.  But, with cameras everywhere,  including on their person, conversation and actions are all recorded. Although the number of Civil Lit. claims may have fallen (much to Ch. Cons. delight, I am sure) the number of assaults on Police has escalated to an all time high. I recently watched a documentary series regarding assaults on Police Officers, of some 15/20 cases that actually made Courts there was not ONE custodial sentence handed out.  Things have to change, and quickly to protect an even thinner blue line  !

[Muddy Funker]

The job has been eroded over time. I've only been in since 2006 half of that firearms, but in that short time I've seen it. 

Front line cops are not alot more than a mobile crime reporting bureau, a slave to the radio. The odd exciting job happens but the majority of time is spent dealing with utter tripe. 

Mental health issues (most time is spent dealing with this)

Regular mispers from kids homes (tons of time lost here) 

Someone being called a **** on Facebook 😂

The pay and leave is alright though, that's the only reason I do it. It's just a job. 

Edited September 15, 2019 by Muddy Funker