Bigbob Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 Ive been watching the Covid daily whilst in the man cave knitting nets and they have only hit the 100, 000 tests daily twice they fall far short every day but what gets me is ive heard of people getting a kit in the post with no return address and being told to bin it , These are being counted as every kit sent out is counted and they allow for folk ordering a kit and not returning it ???? Is it just another con ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bigbob said: Ive been watching the Covid daily whilst in the man cave knitting nets and they have only hit the 100, 000 tests daily twice they fall far short every day but what gets me is ive heard of people getting a kit in the post with no return address and being told to bin it , These are being counted as every kit sent out is counted and they allow for folk ordering a kit and not returning it ???? Is it just another con ?. No idea about the no return address and bin it idea. But. With regards the kits being sent out, once they are in the post, its then fact the government have met their target, its then the responsibility of the receiver to ensure they do the rest. Another CON. implies there as been some sort of Con at least one and the word ANOTHER. TWO CONS. No idea what you mean by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggy74 Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 on the flip side, there are empty testing stations all over the country you can only test the people who turn up, if they dont turn up what can you do? people are told to go get tested if they are in certain groups and have shown symptoms i qualify for a test because i can go to work (construction) but have not shown any symptoms, so im not going to get tested so i think capacity is there or thereabouts, but they need to loosen the restrictions on who gets tested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, eggy74 said: on the flip side, there are empty testing stations all over the country you can only test the people who turn up, if they dont turn up what can you do? people are told to go get tested if they are in certain groups and have shown symptoms i qualify for a test because i can go to work (construction) but have not shown any symptoms, so im not going to get tested so i think capacity is there or thereabouts, but they need to loosen the restrictions on who gets tested And perhaps "sanction" those who book a test and then fail to turn up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, eggy74 said: on the flip side, there are empty testing stations all over the country you can only test the people who turn up, if they dont turn up what can you do? An optimist could see the lower numbers of good news. If fewer people are turning up because there are fewer people with symptoms then this is good news. Perhaps the government could be a bit more savvy and for instance say "we tested 65,000 yesterday and 35,000 other available tests were not taken up " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, TRINITY said: An optimist could see the lower numbers of good news. If fewer people are turning up because there are fewer people with symptoms then this is good news. I'm sure there was something on the news this morning saying that NHS staff aren't getting tested the same because many have been tested and had no symptoms since, I could well be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 Where have you ‘heard’ it? Daily Mail or FaceBook 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Where have you ‘heard’ it? Daily Mail or FaceBook 🙂 Or worse still, on here 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Where have you ‘heard’ it? Daily Mail or FaceBook 🙂 BBC news were talking about the figures this morning, but I was getting ready for work so was paying full attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted May 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 I just think its funny they cant hit the numbers then you hear about kits getting sent out with no return address so bin it and suddenly there hitting the magical figure Who came up with the idea there hitting 100,000 a day if they just send that amount of kits out anyway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 13, 2020 Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) They might as well not bother testing if all they do is stick the results in a drawer. https://www.hsj.co.uk/coronavirus/exclusive-test-data-from-commercial-labs-going-into-black-hole/7027619.article Another shambles to add to the ever growing list. Edited May 13, 2020 by Retsdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 13, 2020 Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 Sounds like the Roche anti-body test has just been approved by PHE, that's great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 13, 2020 Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Sounds like the Roche anti-body test has just been approved by PHE, that's great news. Indeed. Its kind of still on topic here , but it feels very strange us all being guinea pigs in a massive world wide experiment where we really do not know what works what wont and no idea how it will all work out of how many in the world will die in this before we get to grips with it, And that is if we ever do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 5 hours ago, lancer425 said: a massive world wide experiment where we really do not know what works what wont and no idea how it will all work out of how many in the world will die in this before we get to grips with it In a sense, that is what it is. I say 'in a sense' because I don't believe it was initiated on purpose, which 'experiments' usually are. We don't know how to act to reduce the impact and get life back (as close as it can ever be) to normal. In some places (e.g. New Zealand) they have apparently been successful, but different countries have different challenges for a whole host of reasons (travel habits, social habits, culture, population density, demographics, medical facilities etc.). There is no existing knowledge either from past experience, or proven science to define the 'correct' actions ........ hence the 'experimental' element you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 hello, i cannot see that the home testing kits do not have a return address to one of the Government Laboratories, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted May 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Why cant university labs do the test ? that would really help with the numbers ?. And everybody's banging on about increasing the numbers tested will help who has had the virus and can go back to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Bigbob said: will help who has had the virus and can go back to work There are tow types of test; Do I currently have the virus (actively even if asymptomatic)? Do I have the antibodies that would be present if I have previously had the virus - this is only just approved (yesterday in the UK I think) I think that relates to the new 'antibody test' (approve by Public Health England yesterday) which tells if you have had the virus in the past (probably up to 2 or 3 years or more) The testing they are doing and have done to date is whether you currently have the virus. The issue here seems to be the infrastructure to support testing (which was set up in a huge hurry) is a bit flaky. Some 'drive in' test places seem to have lots of spare capacity and there seem to be issues over where to send home done tests (i.e. where to post them to). The antibody test is by Roche, and I understand uses a piece of equipment to analyse the test samples (swabs?) which is already in use in many hospitals/medical labs. I don't know if this piece of kit would be present in Universities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringDon Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: <snip> The antibody test is by Roche, and I understand uses a piece of equipment to analyse the test samples (swabs?) which is already in use in many hospitals/medical labs. I don't know if this piece of kit would be present in Universities? If the one I saw on the news was a prototype then it’s not a lab test but field test where you have a plastic tray with 2 holes, one of which is for a sample and the other for a reagent. I use a similar thing for foul brood testing in bees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, SpringDon said: If the one I saw on the news was a prototype then it’s not a lab test but field test where you have a plastic tray with 2 holes, one of which is for a sample and the other for a reagent. I use a similar thing for foul brood testing in bees. I think that may be a different one? The Roche one I believe you take a sample of blood on something (bit like a diabetes sugar measuring sample I think) which is then put in a machine for 'developing/reading' and takes about 18 minutes (from the report I read). Details appear to be here https://www.roche.com/media/releases/med-cor-2020-04-17.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, SpringDon said: If the one I saw on the news was a prototype then it’s not a lab test but field test More on the various tests here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8318915/Everything-need-know-Roches-newly-approved-antibody-test.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringDon Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: More on the various tests here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8318915/Everything-need-know-Roches-newly-approved-antibody-test.html Fair enough, the thing I saw on the news must have been stock medical footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just now, SpringDon said: Fair enough, the thing I saw on the news must have been stock medical footage. I think there are various potential ones 'in the pipeline' awaiting approval, but as I understand it - only the Roche one is currently approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 The antibody test is like a pregnancy test but uses blood instead of urine, you get a bit of blood on the test surface, activate it with the supplied fluid and the test results appear in the "window" above where you deposit the sample. First line indicates a valid sample has been provided and other lines indicate the test outcomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 It is reported a second antibody test is now approved https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8321239/Five-million-antibody-kits-standby-NHS-SECOND-test-approved-officials.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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