islandgun Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 Saw this just now and thought.. yeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 Hard to argue with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted May 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Hard to argue with that. I was thinking those sentiments apply to all aspects of life, and a shame that others wont see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Whilst I agree that some matters are individual choice, what we term to be murder versus what we term as a medical procedure is a matter for society to determine not individual conscious. Termination of a child should not become a method of contraception. With over 200,000 procedures each year in the UK it is hard to see it as anything but that. Except in special circumstances I do not agree with abortion past say 6 weeks, just as I do not agree with infanticide. I know it is not a popular opinion for someone of my generation but it is my opinion. We have babies being euthanised at a stage in pregnancy when they can survive now, with modern medical intervention. However let me clarify that as much as I am concerned about the prevalence of abortion I am doubly concerned about the people who protest outside of abortion centres or send hate to those involved. Perversely, whilst life is precious I would happily have those protestors dangling at the end of a rope. 🤷♀️ I guess the system we have now is not perfect but is a compromise for a complex situation. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/abortions-five-teenagers-among-women-who-had-at-least-their-6th-termination-in-uk-last-year-11863920 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/11/abortions-in-england-and-wales-reach-record-high Edited May 21, 2021 by WalkedUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 I may not agree with your opinion but I defend your right to have it. Isn't that the British way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Who fights for the right to life of the, as yet unborn, person? Why is choice higher than life? Just questions, not a stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, henry d said: Who fights for the right to life of the, as yet unborn, person? Why is choice higher than life? Just questions, not a stance. I’d have to agree with this. As much as I’m a huge supporter of freedom of choice, it has to come with responsibilities. At the other end of the spectrum so to speak, I’m a huge believer that individuals who have no quality of life and wish to do so, have the right to end their lives. Not easy topics either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Couldn't agree more !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Abortion is a really big subject in America, people get very heated about it, Staff working in abortion clinics have been attacked in the street and even murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 It's such an emotive subject, so many factors at play with terminations including failures of sex education, failures with contraception etc. As much as there is the argument of protecting the rights of an unborn child, there's the counter argument that what quality of life can an unwanted child expect? It's still very contentious but there is evidence that Roe V Wade in the US was the main driving factor in the reducing crime rate, kids that would have been born into poverty or unwanted were terminated and therefore not born - these kids were likely to be the ones turning to crime and without their presence the crime rate dropped. I'm no expert but I don't believe many people are routinely using abortion as birth control, the few people I know that have had them have wrestled with the decision and have to live with the consequences of their actions the rest of their life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Centrepin said: I may not agree with your opinion but I defend your right to have it. Isn't that the British way? It's what thousands of service personnel have given and still give there lives for . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 hours ago, The Mighty Prawn said: ...It's still very contentious but there is evidence that Roe V Wade in the US was the main driving factor in the reducing crime rate, kids that would have been born into poverty or unwanted were terminated and therefore not born - these kids were likely to be the ones turning to crime and without their presence the crime rate dropped... Very contentious, no way could you tell if the person would be a criminal or who cured cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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