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Is the blue wall in danger, given the latest result.


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hs 2 is coming right through our area inc Stoneleigh showground    Warwick uni    a46 new junctions    that i know of     some outsiders and a few insiders protest   Cubbington woods   cur through not cut down          the majority      in the area              more  jobs good pay 👍  other business  👍    independents  mots   👍  car servicing 👍  food👍    fuel👍 too hire 👍 heavy plant 👍       concrete suppliers 👍       timber merchants   👍   on site full breakfast   👍   other builder suppliers  of a national importance  to builders what you want we have       all the big names     to supply the gravy train and ******   everyone else                    in the last 30 years i have only used independent or family businesses  a mutual respect and help / work with each other   or i walked away                  i dont need an account to spend money  never did                          no one getting ripped off                i barter a price on the counter        even on 70% discount still 25% dearer than independent    supplier                 they are worried re supplies getting guinn cement   from ireland    "£4.25 a bag      and rugby  cement works  is 15miles away     cant supply for 6mts     £6. 25       now i cant even get a price list for materials as going up every delivery 40% in two weeks          my labour cost is the same as before covid        materials      you supply or reimburse  inc standing time          while you make your mind up or indecision  it costs you  money its not getting cheaper      or change your mind    it costs you  more money           my labour costs   are the same    materials is anyone's guess                i cant call this one after 40 yrs  go now and pay    or wait a year or two for all to settle    i dont know its getting stupid  so mark my words in two years  its tits up time

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14 minutes ago, dead eye alan said:

Ed Davey will be telling us all that he is going to be the next PM.😎

What an absolutely pointless individual that chap is.

3 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

Obviously a protest vote when there is no risk of the party introducing all it's, frankly stupid, policies by trying to out left labour and out green the greens.🤔

Yes indeed, the HS2 element and the chance of a protest vote is the cause. I doubt Conservative HQ has lost any sleep over it.

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12 hours ago, redial said:

Was it HS2, which appears to be impacting on the area ?

Well, the LibDems are all for HS2, so that may be a red herring.

https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/lib-dem-manifesto-yes-hs2-no-heathrow-expansion-21-11-2019/

2 hours ago, Yellow Bear said:

Obviously a protest vote when there is no risk of the party introducing all it's, frankly stupid, policies by trying to out left labour and out green the greens.

This is the real reason - and the protest is about (alleged) proposed relaxations in planning - which would be very significant in Home Counties areas.

The people who should worry are Labour; their vote collapsed, they lost their deposit, and things aren't looking good for them in Batley and Spen (due 1st July).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9702297/Sir-Keir-Starmer-faces-humiliation-calls-quit-poll-shows-Labour-crushed-election.html

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17 minutes ago, enfieldspares said:

I think sadly that this is NOT a revolt against Government wildlife policy

The question here would/should be: "Which party would be a better wildlife policy?"

In the past - we have only realistically had a choice of two

  • Labour (or Labour led coalition/alliance with SNP, LibDem etc.)
  • Tory (or Tory led coalition/alliance with LibDem, DUP)

Of the two leading contenders, Tory is (or has been) 'less bad'.

Sadly, despite the recent Tory outbreak of 'wokeism', I cannot see any other possible party/coalition/alliance (with any realistic chance of forming a government) who would be any better.

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The point about the so called Blue Wall is that there isn't one. Southern voters tend to vote positively using their heads which makes them somewhat different from the mostly northern based electorate with a lot of automatic and unthinking hatred of the tories, which has sustained the Red Wall for generations.

People in places like Amersham aren't stupid by and large. They tend keep up with real news, rather than just celeb gossip, and they don't like that Boris has taken away our liberties with no clear plan or timescale for restoring them. Plus they can see he's been indecisive and instead of using his scientific advisers to offer their views so that he can make executive decisions, he's allowed them to tell him what his decisions should be.  The net result is that, thanks to the usual disagreements between scientists and a government run by a bunch of people who haven't evolved much since their student days, the government has been out it's collective depth right from day 1.

The upshot is that they've simply kept on kicking the can down the road in the hope that one day either vaccines or nature will end the pandemic. Well, the pandemic has been over for weeks and there's no need to keep throwing everything under the bus in order to "Save the NHS". There aren't many in hospital with Covid and all but a tiny percentage of those are people who haven't been vaccinated - usually because they've refused it. 

The only people who don't get that the pandemic is over, or rather don't want to get it, are the scientific advisers pulling Boris' strings, who I suspect are being handsomely rewarded for fuelling and maintaining government panic and thus prolonging the restrictions unnecessarily.

The LibDems didn't win the seat, Boris & Co lost it.

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