grahamch Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just had an email saying Guntrader has been hacked and 'personal contact details' taken. This is decidedly worrying and could compromise the security of a good number of folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Yes, have just received the same email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting5 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 There's another thread. As I said in there, they need to be shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitester Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 I got this too, didn’t know if it was a scam or not. Even if true and if I read it correctly then it’s just your mobile / email that’s been accessed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting5 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Whitester said: I got this too, didn’t know if it was a scam or not. Even if true and if I read it correctly then it’s just your mobile / email that’s been accessed It's not, addresses too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just checked mine and good job my address was out of date. Changed my password though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Definitely not a scam, not sure they should be shut down, plenty of higher profile companies have had data breaches. Just this is one regarding firearm owner's. Who knows what the reason for the hack was. No different to the innocent badge site getting hold of cull details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting5 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, ShootingEgg said: Definitely not a scam, not sure they should be shut down, plenty of higher profile companies have had data breaches. Just this is one regarding firearm owner's. Who knows what the reason for the hack was. No different to the innocent badge site getting hold of cull details. They should be doing everything within their power to keep their subject data secure, at the very least be listening to security reports from their own customers. It's negligence, it's the very definition of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Sporting5 said: They should be doing everything within their power to keep their subject data secure, at the very least be listening to security reports from their own customers. It's negligence, it's the very definition of it. Hackers are always one step ahead of the protectors. It's a reactive job to block new attacks. This is nothing new when it comes to breaches. Yes it will now put them in a very tricky position. But yes they should be making sure details are securely held. But they are not the first and will not be the last company to get caught out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting5 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: Hackers are always one step ahead of the protectors. It's a reactive job to block new attacks. This is nothing new when it comes to breaches. Yes it will now put them in a very tricky position. But yes they should be making sure details are securely held. But they are not the first and will not be the last company to get caught out. Hackers weren't 1 step ahead here, Guntrader were 1 step behind. They were already advised, they just didn't listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Sporting5 said: Hackers weren't 1 step ahead here, Guntrader were 1 step behind. They were already advised, they just didn't listen By you from another comment I've seen, who else has told them? What vulnerability did you advise them of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting5 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: By you from another comment I've seen, who else has told them? What vulnerability did you advise them of? It was a while ago, I don't recall the exact vulnerability, I wouldnt go into specifics anyway in case it got into the wrong hands but I'd spotted something really easily spotted during normal use of their website and reached out to offer help (if it was normal use then its likely to be 1 of a few types of vulnerability). I read on reddit earlier that somebody else did too. Totally ignored. I totally agree with you hackers are one step ahead (typically) but even had they not had been advised of just some general security concern and they just hadn't realised, I think either way they need to be held accountable for this. There couldn't possibly have been any half decent testing on the security. There are a lot of sensible people panicking over this breach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 A bit more info from BASC here, this will be updated of course as and when we learn more BASC issues firearms advice after hackers steal data - The British Association for Shooting and Conservation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Thank you David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Sporting5 said: I totally agree with you hackers are one step ahead (typically) but even had they not had been advised of just some general security concern and they just hadn't realised, I think either way they need to be held accountable for this. There couldn't possibly have been any half decent testing on the security. There are a lot of sensible people panicking over this breach. I think that who ever they have looking after the website and then in turn security of it will need a talking to for sure. If they have ignored Comms that have told them of this again a huge mistake by them and they should be pulled up on this. Any personal data is exactly that and private. I'm sure the right people will be asking the questions we all are about how they could be so slack as to let it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsZeppelin Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 North Yorkshire police have just issued a statement via social media to make people aware of this issue. They are asking people to change passwords and be extra vigilante with home security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting5 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 9 hours ago, LeedsZeppelin said: North Yorkshire police have just issued a statement via social media to make people aware of this issue. They are asking people to change passwords and be extra vigilante with home security. Changing passwords won't do a thing, it's a nice idea but people shouldn't really be using the same password for multiple things anyway but the data leak of names and addresses is already out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 23/07/2021 at 07:39, Sporting5 said: Changing passwords won't do a thing, the data leak of names and addresses is already out there. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 I guess it only applies if you've advertised items on there, or do you need to open an account to browse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted July 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Given the size and serious nature of the data breach surely the victims must be due compensation of some sort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 And so it begins…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Blimey, dodgy solicitors too eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just been advised by my firearms office by email that my details (among many others) has been put out on the dark web. Also makes various suggestion as to my gun security etc .!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Good shot? said: Just been advised by my firearms office by email that my details (among many others) has been put out on the dark web. Also makes various suggestion as to my gun security etc .!!! How does your firearms office know this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, Scully said: How does your firearms office know this? Maybe the have some experts following the breach? But, how can Guntrader’s breach give rise to any info on your security arrangements? Good Shot, Are you sure the email that was received actually came from your Firearms department and isn’t a ‘phishing’ exercise? Be wary of replying to any email received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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