mossy835 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 He said we took the right decision to ban handguns,and now we need to deal with the illegal supply of guns,two thirds of deaths from guns. i can see he is going to be a great help to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 He said we took the right decision to ban handguns,and now we need to deal with the illegal supply of guns,two thirds of deaths from guns. i can see he is going to be a great help to us. We dont own an illegal supply of guns though do we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Janaway Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I think it's good that someone is finaly dealing with the problem of illegal guns. Before they just took it out on the people with legal guns by introducing stricter laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootingman Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 What Brown & his cronies can comprehend it that if they ban all guns, the bandits will STILL have guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartridge Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 If they ban all guns and take away my shotgun certificate i think i will cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Well done Brown , great sound bite ... means **** all ... Useless ***** ! all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I dont think he will ban all guns the worst that could happen to a ShotgunApplication is he raises the legal age limit, or limit one shotgun to each holder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Janaway Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 The thing is that if he ban's all guns then there will be more illegal guns than ever, coz i'm sure as hell im not gunna have mine taken away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Yeh it was the right decision to BAN HAND GUNS, now why can't i see that There are more illegal guns on the streets than there has ever been. I wish i knew which planet they were from, because i sure whish they would all **** off back there!!!!!!!! All i can see is things are going to get tougher for us in the long run :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I am not a Brown supporter, but just keep things in perspective, there is no suggestion that legally held/licensed weapons are at risk. Lets not have loads of testosterone fuelled posts about ,"they will have to prise my guns out of my lifeless fingers". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Janaway Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 they will have to prise my guns out of my lifeless fingers". i agree, ill be dead before they take my gun too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernie garland Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 don't they realise that nearly all the illegal handguns are coming from across the water, now the troubles are over,both sides have no need for them now, and can make mega money for something they no longer need,but our gangsters and drug dealers do and can afford to purchase them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I hate to say later on " told you so", but father brown is going to do something to Pi** us all off. Rest assured Politicians ........... Liars and gutless freeloaders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 But surely if you ban something, like hand guns it only affects the honest people like us....Im not to convinced the criminals who are using these guns will take much notice. What he needs todo, is hit these criminals hard and make an example of anyone carrying an illegal gun...on this subject sort of, do you know my local fishing shop no longer stock pen knives due to the increase in knife crime in this country.......so how stopping me from buying a knife (to use for fishing/shooting even taking the dog out, i have a knife in my pocket just incase she gets caught up on something), stop knife crime in Britain....... Just MHO on the subject Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I dont think he will ban all guns the worst that could happen to a ShotgunApplication is he raises the legal age limit, or limit one shotgun to each holder The worst! That's bad enough! I got my cert at 14, I'm now 15 and have more than one gun. Brown is about as inspiring as bare flag pole while trying to come across as all British. Grr... FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 What he NEEDS to do is bring back HANGING!! Hang the Murderers Peadopiles Rapists and other undesirables and use the freed up prison slots to make examples of those who carry and use illegal firearms. When was the last time you heard someone getting 5 years for a firearms offence? OK Tony Martin I grant you BUT what I am getting at is the so called MINIMUM 5 years is not being dished out enough when it comes to sentencing. They always seem to play the old excuse "the jails are over crowded" If they would find a way of discarding the trash of society then this would no longer be a problem would it? Some people simply can't be re introduced in to the main stream public for the safety of others! In these cases WHY should good tax payers money be spent over 40 years+ when a cheap gallows and rope can be used at a fraction of the price? When I was a Kid there was a saying "crime doesn't pay" and at the time it was about right!!! Now it seems Crime is a better paid occupation than a solicitor although some say the difference isn't much lol. It is HIGH time Crime across the board was re assessed not just certain ones! Crime as a whole should be dealt with in a harsher manner and the punishment fitting of the Crime comitted! LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 What he NEEDS to do is bring back HANGING!! Hang the Murderers Peadopiles Rapists and other undesirables and use the freed up prison slots to make examples of those who carry and use illegal firearms. When was the last time you heard someone getting 5 years for a firearms offence? OK Tony Martin I grant you BUT what I am getting at is the so called MINIMUM 5 years is not being dished out enough when it comes to sentencing. They always seem to play the old excuse "the jails are over crowded" If they would find a way of discarding the trash of society then this would no longer be a problem would it? Some people simply can't be re introduced in to the main stream public for the safety of others! In these cases WHY should good tax payers money be spent over 40 years+ when a cheap gallows and rope can be used at a fraction of the price? When I was a Kid there was a saying "crime doesn't pay" and at the time it was about right!!! Now it seems Crime is a better paid occupation than a solicitor although some say the difference isn't much lol. It is HIGH time Crime across the board was re assessed not just certain ones! Crime as a whole should be dealt with in a harsher manner and the punishment fitting of the Crime comitted! LG Well said but the reason why we cant hang em is because of human rights. Criminals these days have more rights than their victoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Have you been been watching Alf Garnett LG? Hanging 'em is fine providing you've got the right man in the dock - not always guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_colt Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I'm just trying to think of what "Justification" they will try to put the next set of firearms restrictions past through the gulible public. I'm sure they will spin something up. As long as I secure any shotguns I decide to one day own in the adequate fashion (in an approved cabinet) then the state should have no business dicatating a limitation. If I want a 20b SBS to go alongside a semi auto for use in places where semi's are still frowned upon then; that is my Business. After the pistol ban that more restrictions would follow until a outright ban came in eventually. Was featured in a piece the NRA did about UK/AUS gun bans: I just hope the BSSC member bodies will hurry up and get unified if we are to have a chance of stopping further restrictions. Intrestingly the Lib dems are promising to that the safeguarding of lawful shooting and angling will be in their next election manifesto. One doubts they will follow through with it though. mr_colt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potshot Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Before the handgun ban 96% of all recorded armed crimes, took place with illegally held weapons that were never held legally, after the ban 96% of all armed crime took place with illegally held weapons that were never held legally. Nearly 20 years later 96% of all armed crimes take place with illegally held weapons that were never held legally. Is there something familiar here? The laws have tightened, there are more banned weapons but at least the 96% is still constant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelvebore Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 I used to think that the most dangerous thing in the world was a politician, now I believe that it's a politician with an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 I used to think that the most dangerous thing in the world was a politician, now I believe that it's a politician with an idea. No, that's an 'Army Officer with a map'. But, politicians come a very close second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Have you been been watching Alf Garnett LG? Hanging 'em is fine providing you've got the right man in the dock - not always guaranteed. Cheeky *** They got the idea for Alf FROM Me!!!! LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 As Cranfield said there was no mention of clamping down on legally held guns and I have to say I'd welcome a clamp down on illegal guns and the penalties for possesing them to be made far more stringent. But it means we need to police our borders properly and inspect every bit of freight that enters the country and that simply isn't going to happen. If the police deal with illegal guns it will actually take the pressure off legal gun owners as dropping crime figures will mean it becomes less of a public focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 We dont own an illegal supply of guns though do we? Only a matter of time before the guns we hold become illegal.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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