ditchman Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 watched a programme on PBS America...it was a history documentory...on the 2 years after the 2nd world war ended in Poland...it was about the polish hunting down other polish folk who had thrown their lot in with the Nazi's........there was only one outcome for these people... OBSERVATION............ do you know the Polish dont use a gallows for hanging ! what they use is a 1ft square oak post with a butchers hook sunk into the wood 4/5ths the way up !!.......they caught this polish nazi officer....and im sure they had drugged him ...he was very slow and compliant...his hands wernt bound he was led onto this rising floor at the base of the oak post...then a bloke wearing white gloves put a very short slip knot (not a noose) around his neck...and as the floor raised upwards the bloke with white gloves climbed up a folding stepladder.....when the client had reached the right height....the bloke with white gloves casually slipped the other end of the noose over the butchers hook.....then he called down to his mates below and the floor started to desend slowly....until the client was suspended....there was a little struggling.....then the bloke on the step ladder climbed up again and pushed the clients mouth shut after pushing his tongue in.....then climbed down the step ladder again........... the commentator (PBS America) said this form of hanging was the norm in Poland and usually the client took 2-15mins to expire....... how truly BIZARRE................. it was sort of like watching someone clean their windows ...it was just sooo casual..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Casual because it had become the norm! Imagine just what the population had been through and this was the "cleaning up" following the fall of the Nazi's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 55 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Casual because it had become the norm! Imagine just what the population had been through and this was the "cleaning up" following the fall of the Nazi's. This 👆 i think similar things happened in other countries where they occupied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) A deserved fate. Edited December 6, 2022 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 11 hours ago, ditchman said: watched a programme on PBS America...it was a history documentory...on the 2 years after the 2nd world war ended in Poland...it was about the polish hunting down other polish folk who had thrown their lot in with the Nazi's........there was only one outcome for these people... OBSERVATION............ do you know the Polish dont use a gallows for hanging ! what they use is a 1ft square oak post with a butchers hook sunk into the wood 4/5ths the way up !!.......they caught this polish nazi officer....and im sure they had drugged him ...he was very slow and compliant...his hands wernt bound he was led onto this rising floor at the base of the oak post...then a bloke wearing white gloves put a very short slip knot (not a noose) around his neck...and as the floor raised upwards the bloke with white gloves climbed up a folding stepladder.....when the client had reached the right height....the bloke with white gloves casually slipped the other end of the noose over the butchers hook.....then he called down to his mates below and the floor started to desend slowly....until the client was suspended....there was a little struggling.....then the bloke on the step ladder climbed up again and pushed the clients mouth shut after pushing his tongue in.....then climbed down the step ladder again........... the commentator (PBS America) said this form of hanging was the norm in Poland and usually the client took 2-15mins to expire....... how truly BIZARRE................. it was sort of like watching someone clean their windows ...it was just sooo casual..... Humane compared to some of the brutally during the war and the retribution that followed the fall of Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) I read Albert Perrepoint's book a few years back and he mentioned about the work he had to undertake after the Hamburg trails ,he also wrote about having to help out the American executioners because they were not used to hanging people to death (gas chamber in the USA) they were even swinging on there legs ! He having carried up to 600 executions stepped in and shown them how to do it , it was a job his father and uncle Tom had done before he took over the job ! Edited December 6, 2022 by derbyduck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, derbyduck said: I read Albert Perrepoint's book a few years back and he mentioned about the work he had to undertake after the Hamburg trails ,he also wrote about having to help out the American executioners because they were not used to hanging people to death (gas chamber in the USA) they were even swinging on there legs ! He having carried up to 600 executions stepped in and shown them how to do it , it was a job his father and uncle Tom had done before he took over the job ! I have read that too, an interesting tale. The film with Timothy Spall is good as well, and based on the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, Penelope said: I have read that too, an interesting tale. The film with Timothy Spall is good as well, and based on the book. yes I watched it and having read the book I was pleased they didn't wash over it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybrit Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 The American sergeant who did most of the hangings in Landsberg prison ner Munich had bluffed his way into the job claiming some past US experience, he botched many of them. They finally sent him back to the USA where he was posted onto a pacific island and died by electrocution in an accident around 1950. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Although those being hanged almost always deserved it, you've still got to be a head job to kill a human in cold blood like that. Their no different animal than the person that their hanging. There's a lot of difference to shooting something as to murdering something. I can't bring myself to drown rats.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogone Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 I saw a documentary a few years ago: SAVAGE PEACE. Footage taken after the war.About Eastern Europe. They showed a lot of hangings beating and shooting executions. Quite a long scene of the hang from the hook method from Poland. You did not want to be a German soldier straggling alone or a collaborator. There are still Dutch immigrants in Canada who remember who the collaborators were and where they or their families are today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Nature has always made people who can do these types of jobs. Wouldn’t do if we were all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 05/12/2022 at 21:49, ditchman said: That method known sometimes as "pole" or "downward jerk" execution was the normal way in the old Austro-Hungarian Empire. Essentially whereas in the UK the inertia created by the cuplrit's own body weight is used to dislocate the neck (so that the person's last act of physical violence is, as it were, against themselves). In the "pole" method it is a swift pull or tug on their feet to pull the body away from the head rather than (as in the UK) the drop providing that effect. There are videos of the execution of Karl Frank that show it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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