ditchman Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 Just sitting here open mouthed............Lizz Truss (remember her ?)...........is being supported in making a comeback...............im speechless words like deluded out of touch out of her mind out to lunch arrogant just really sums up the conservertive party...............its all about them ..not the people.............god what a shower of ****....the bloody lot of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applepress Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 That last paragraph could be said of all the parties, you can see why people don't bother voting. I do, but wonder why sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 I think the title says it all "Westminster" (and City Hall). It applies to all of them and isn't really 'party political' - though Truss is a beacon of delusion; Truss and Co - cutting taxes when we have huge debt to repay and rising interest rates. Starmer, Abbott, Rayner & Co - unable to say who is male and who is female, and wanting to encourage immigration etc. Kahn & Co - taxing those who can't afford fancy new electric cars with huge increase in "Low Emission Area" Ed Davey and Co, Caroline Lucas, Sturgeon's mob (I can't even recall who leads in Westminster after Blackford stood down) all have their own madcap ideas ...... In my view part of the problem is that so many in the 'Political Elite' have never done a real job and eared an honest living. They have enjoyed a path via 'political research', trades unions posts, into politics via our multi levelled political ladder. Some 'families' have in effect been political 'dynasties' with several generations of politicians (and no one earning a worked for living) - a few that spring to mind (on both sides), Churchill, Benns (formerly Viscounts Stangate, then Wedgewood-Benns, now just Benn), Milliband, Kinnock and those are just from my memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 4 hours ago, ditchman said: Just sitting here open mouthed............Lizz Truss (remember her ?)...........is being supported in making a comeback...............im speechless words like deluded out of touch out of her mind out to lunch arrogant just really sums up the conservertive party...............its all about them ..not the people.............god what a shower of ****....the bloody lot of them That sir is being unkind to good honest ****? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Applepress said: That last paragraph could be said of all the parties, you can see why people don't bother voting. I do, but wonder why sometimes. so right.............i must admit i feel the same.....................its totally pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Hello, she blames everyone for her own downfail ?, Would be interesting to know how much the telegraph paid her 🤔 Edited February 6, 2023 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobbyathome Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 hours ago, ditchman said: deluded out of touch out of her mind out to lunch arrogant nice rack tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 7 hours ago, ditchman said: Just sitting here open mouthed............Lizz Truss (remember her ?)...........is being supported in making a comeback...............im speechless words like deluded out of touch out of her mind out to lunch arrogant just really sums up the conservertive party...............its all about them ..not the people.............god what a shower of ****....the bloody lot of them Hello, going back to COVID times I thought the Tories would be better than labour , was that a mistake 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, nobbyathome said: nice rack tho i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 22 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: I thought the Tories would be better than labour , was that a mistake But we don't know Labour would have been better than the Tories. If fact many (including me) suspect (from what they said during Covid) that they would have been MORE restrictive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: Some 'families' have in effect been political 'dynasties' with several generations of politicians (and no one earning a worked for living) - a few that spring to mind (on both sides), Churchill, Benns (formerly Viscounts Stangate, then Wedgewood-Benns, now just Benn), Milliband, Kinnock and those are just from my memory. Yes. And FWIW a lot more than that. But you have the same in the British Army with families where son followed father into the forces and families of "hereditary doctors". The toad Douglas Hurd who banned self-loading rifles in 1988...his son is also a current MP. Lisa Nandy's grandfather was a Liberal MP in the post-1945 General Election. Not a lot of people know that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Byers Edited February 6, 2023 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, going back to COVID times I thought the Tories would be better than labour , was that a mistake 🤔 The scary thing is that I would say you wasn't mistaken as @JohnfromUK said above. I have posted earlier that her policies should have been given a chance - Sentiment can go a long way and if people are feeling happier that can have a massive beneficial impact on the economy. Pretty soon we are going to have the hike in Corporation Tax up to 25% - I bet that that will have an impact on inflation. Then you will get we need to raise taxes again or mortgages or both.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, discobob said: The scary thing is that I would say you wasn't mistaken as @JohnfromUK said above. I have posted earlier that her policies should have been given a chance - Sentiment can go a long way and if people are feeling happier that can have a massive beneficial impact on the economy. Pretty soon we are going to have the hike in Corporation Tax up to 25% - I bet that that will have an impact on inflation. Then you will get we need to raise taxes again or mortgages or both.... Hello, I think your right, I've just shopped at Waitrose 🤔🙄, at least I got a free coffee 🤔👍, or not 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I think your right, I've just shopped at Waitrose 🤔🙄, at least I got a free coffee 🤔👍, or not 😁 Hello, oh she has just quoted, I do not want to be PM again,!!!!! 🤔 , Well that's good Liz 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, oh she has just quoted, I do not want to be PM again,!!!!! 🤔 , Well that's good Liz 👍 usually when a politician says that............it means the opposite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 13 hours ago, ditchman said: usually when a politician says that............it means the opposite Hello, Sunak is having a reshuffle 🤔, any job there for a 7 day X PM ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicblue Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Larry for PM.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 06/02/2023 at 10:57, nobbyathome said: nice rack tho So did Rudolph, he might have had more idea than her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 What Truss and Quartang tried to do was bang on right for getting the economy back on track. The fact that they were undermined by the Sunak supporters and the major financial institutions wasn't because they were wrong or incompetent. Quite the reverse in fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vince Green said: because they were wrong or incompetent. Quite the reverse in fact but it was wrong - wrong for them - sod everyone else.... It would be interesting to see what Wishi's personal wealth has increased by over the years since 2020 - on a year by year breakdown. Jeremy Hunt is just a cockney saying for himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vince Green said: What Truss and Quartang tried to do was bang on right for getting the economy back on track. The fact that they were undermined by the Sunak supporters and the major financial institutions wasn't because they were wrong or incompetent. Quite the reverse in fact They failed on the delivery of their plan, but their plan was the right direction - growth and getting the economy (and everyone in it) back to work. There was no choice at the last election, people have short memories. Corbyn and Co in Covid and with the power of lockdown? Anyone admire New Zealand or Canada still for their handling of covid and their people? And then there’s Corbyn and Russia - the Salisbury poisonings he wanted to send the samples back to Russia to have them confirm if it was Russian Novichok. Bonkers. As ever, it’s going to be holding your nose at the ballet box and voting for the best of a bad bunch and for me that’s always going to be the party that is going to pick my pocket the least or put another way, leaves me to keep the money I went to work to go and earn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 @Mungler it is the new normal buddy - they all want more of your money for their proliferation. Isn't it lovely to be altruistic with money that doesn't belong to you and you don't have to answer for it.... Did I hear right on the radio - another pay rise for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, discobob said: @Mungler it is the new normal buddy - they all want more of your money for their proliferation. Isn't it lovely to be altruistic with money that doesn't belong to you and you don't have to answer for it.... Did I hear right on the radio - another pay rise for them Yes it’s the lack of value for money in anything the government ever does or touches be that conservative or Labour. Unbelievable they’d give themselves a pay rise - I’d half the number of MPs and pay them twice as much, but it’s the failure to read the room - a pay rise, now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mungler said: Yes it’s the lack of value for money in anything the government ever does or touches be that conservative or Labour. Unbelievable they’d give themselves a pay rise - I’d half the number of MPs and pay them twice as much, but it’s the failure to read the room - a pay rise, now? Count yourself lucky - in Wales they are increasing the number of ***-embly "members" by 50% - where is the money coming from to pay for that - oh I - we have a C on our tax code now. Also, a big part comes from Council Tax which only supports the viewpoint that they are just a load of jumped up councilors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 Just now, discobob said: Count yourself lucky - in Wales they are increasing the number of ***-embly "members" by 50% - where is the money coming from to pay for that - oh I - we have a C on our tax code now. Also, a big part comes from Council Tax which only supports the viewpoint that they are just a load of jumped up councilors... I’ve been watching Wales and Scotland and hope that we can all see that devolution is the path to total madness. Big state means big tax. Each government (and the Whitehall blob) encourage each generation to become more dependent on the state and less dependant on themselves. It’s all about growing the state and the machinery of governance. We really don’t need it and I don’t welcome some sort of soviet era ‘permission’ based system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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