old man Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Vince Green said: The main issue with Begum is not whether or not she should be allowed back in ( I don't think she should) What is she going to do if we let her back? She will be a liability and the press will hound her every day But there are plenty of others who also went and have already been allowed back in and are now living probably at our expense and costing the police a fortune to keep tabs on them for the rest of their lives. No doubt when she eventually returns, she will be given another identity and enough benefits to support her lifestyle? Never minding the welfare of our homeless and ex service personnel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Vince Green said: The ULEZ is nothing to do with clean air. It's to force people onto public transport for reasons of woke social engineering. The present ULEZ has actually increased air pollution in London because they have deliberately slowed down the traffic and made people drive round more because they can't park. Bloke on the radio, some Councillor from Sheffield justifying Sheffields ULEZ said 500 people a year die in Sheffield from air pollution. That's an out and out lie. No proof of one death let alone 500. Khan is claiming 4000 deaths a year from 'toxic air', someone did a freedom of information check, there has been 1 death attributed to air pollution in the UK between 2010 and 2022. Utter lies, used to tax the motorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Khan is claiming 4000 deaths a year from 'toxic air', someone did a freedom of information check, there has been 1 death attributed to air pollution in the UK between 2010 and 2022. Utter lies, used to tax the motorists. It's a bit like the sqillions of birds claimed to die every year from ingesting lead shot. Totally made up figure, no way anyone can produce a jot of evidence to back it up. But they are going to use it to justify banning lead shot. Hard left and environmentalists are making it up as they go along. And another made up lie, 99% of all scientists believe climate change is man made. How can they say that? No way they could have asked them all. But you still hear it said That idiot James O'brien says it on the radio all the time Edited February 28, 2023 by Vince Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Vince Green said: And another made up lie, 99% of all scientists believe climate change is man made. How can they say that? This may help clear that up - not good reading https://climatediscussionnexus.com/videos/the-97-consensus-slogan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 11 hours ago, discobob said: This may help clear that up - not good reading https://climatediscussionnexus.com/videos/the-97-consensus-slogan/ Good Post 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Good Post 👍 Yes, isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 13 hours ago, discobob said: This may help clear that up - not good reading https://climatediscussionnexus.com/videos/the-97-consensus-slogan/ Quotes AMS surveying; "...its 7,000 members. They got about 1,800 responses. Of those, only 52% said they think global warming over the 20th century has happened and is mostly manmade. The remaining 48% either think it happened but is mostly natural, or it didn’t happen, or they don’t know." yet they can still say on their front page; "Humans are causing climate to change and it poses numerous serious risks. The more carbon we emit, the higher the carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere will be and the larger the changes in climate we'll face." 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, henry d said: Quotes AMS surveying; "...its 7,000 members. They got about 1,800 responses. Of those, only 52% said they think global warming over the 20th century has happened and is mostly manmade. The remaining 48% either think it happened but is mostly natural, or it didn’t happen, or they don’t know." yet they can still say on their front page; "Humans are causing climate to change and it poses numerous serious risks. The more carbon we emit, the higher the carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere will be and the larger the changes in climate we'll face." 🤔 Okay, so you refuse to accept climate change 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: so you refuse to accept climate change 🤔 Surely no one can, it's been changing since the Earth was formed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, henry d said: Quotes AMS surveying; "...its 7,000 members. They got about 1,800 responses. Of those, only 52% said they think global warming over the 20th century has happened and is mostly manmade. The remaining 48% either think it happened but is mostly natural, or it didn’t happen, or they don’t know." yet they can still say on their front page; "Humans are causing climate to change and it poses numerous serious risks. The more carbon we emit, the higher the carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere will be and the larger the changes in climate we'll face." 🤔 Call me an old cynic , but pre industrial revolution, CO2 levels are believed to be just less than 300 ppm, these days we are just over 400ppm , doesnt sound too bad does it ? So what percentage of the atmosphere does this equate to ? 0.04 %, thats now BTW. CO2 is ESSENTIAL for plant life, no CO2 = no plants = no oxygen = no animal based life (thats us BTW) Global warming nuts will tell you that 'free' CO2, goes up high into the atmosphere, and creates some kind of space shield that stops heat escaping, yet even a very basic understanding of chemistry tells us CO2 is a heavy gas, and tends to gather where its most needed, around plant life. This is basic stuff, yet we constantly get irrational arguments about climate change , driven by sensationalist 'prophets' of doom. The world may well be warming slightly, but its little to do with humans, and wont be fixed by going back to the stone age, or buying a Tesla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Wish the Mods of this forum would close this post down , as usual they wonder of track . We don't want her back here end off . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Wish the Mods of this forum would close this post down , as usual they wonder of track . We don't want her back here end off . I think certain individuals often pull topics off subject on purpose, as they don't like the topic being discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Surely no one can, it's been changing since the Earth was formed. Is the correct answer and given time there will likely be ice ages. The rest is cobblers allowing the few to beat the majority into submission while making a fortune? As an aside what about all of the active volcanoes and emerging nations? Edited March 1, 2023 by old man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 As mentioned this topic has gone so far off course. Everyone has had their say so let’s put it to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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