Warped Gaurdian article on Pheasant Shooting

[Weihrauch17]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/06/britain-open-season-pheasant-shooting-class-politics

Maybe BASC should challenge this.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Weihrauch17

[ditchman]

total and utter lieing B*******...........................just lie after lie........someone must have shoved a pheasant up his bum in a previous life.............vitriolic hate rant

[Pushandpull]

Some of the BTL comments are........imaginative. Anyone can have their say though so there is a chance to respond today rather than expecting BASC to do something next week.

[Bigbob]

Somebodies not done there research but it never stops them publishing it 

[ilovemyheckler]

Hopefully BASC will publish a reply, after all thats what the members pay them for

[Fellside]

The Guardian has recently gone way beyond a subtle left leaning. They are now essentially a promotional unit for Labour and the so called Greens. 

[Conor O'Gorman]

It's not only for BASC and the other shooting organisations to complain and respond to articles such as this - surely we all need to get involved?

A key criteria for complaints is accuracy and whilst some of the statements sail close to the wind there is a clear unevidenced inaccuracy in the statement "After each massacre, most of the dead pheasants, as there’s little demand for their meat, are dumped in “stink pits...."

To complain email: guardian.readers@theguardian.com on grounds of lack of accuracy.

Background to their complaints process here if need be:

https://www.theguardian.com/info/complaints-and-corrections

Note that you can't complain to the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO) about this article as The Guardian is one of the few broadsheets not signed up.

If you use X/Twitter then you may wish to comment on the article on Monbiot's post on the article here:

https://twitter.com/GeorgeMonbiot/status/1710192588651683904

[Bobba]

12 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said:

It's not only for BASC and the other shooting organisations to complain and respond to articles such as this - surely we all need to get involved?

A key criteria for complaints is accuracy and whilst some of the statements sail close to the wind there is a clear unevidenced inaccuracy in the statement "After each massacre, most of the dead pheasants, as there’s little demand for their meat, are dumped in “stink pits...."

To complain email: guardian.readers@theguardian.com on grounds of lack of accuracy.

Background to their complaints process here if need be:

https://www.theguardian.com/info/complaints-and-corrections

Note that you can't complain to the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO) about this article as The Guardian is one of the few broadsheets not signed up.

If you use X/Twitter then you may wish to comment on the article on Monbiot's post on the article here:

https://twitter.com/GeorgeMonbiot/status/1710192588651683904

Your points are well made but doesn’t answer the query. Has, or will, the BASC be complaining? A simple answer yes or no will suffice.

[ShootingEgg]

that's a lot of very anti bile and anger .... someone's not slept well then wrote that up .. and unfortunately it has been written and read now, a complaint will not reverse that, nor will it mean they will put out an apology or counter statement. I await the PW Bashing for being negative, but we( shooters and the orgs ) need to be putting the facts out to the media, not waiting to defend articles like these.. we should be proactive not reactive. Posting out magazines to already joined members is just preaching to the converted. The article states grouse mores are black holes for harriers and eagles. When they are not. Maybe BASC, NGO, GWCT, CA etc should be putting out articles before this kind of bile is done, EVERY year we see the same anti propaganda and we just let it slide..

[Yellow Bear]

2 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

that's a lot of very anti bile and anger .... someone's not slept well then wrote that up .. and unfortunately it has been written and read now, a complaint will not reverse that, nor will it mean they will put out an apology or counter statement. I await the PW Bashing for being negative, but we( shooters and the orgs ) need to be putting the facts out to the media, not waiting to defend articles like these.. we should be proactive not reactive. Posting out magazines to already joined members is just preaching to the converted. The article states grouse mores are black holes for harriers and eagles. When they are not. Maybe BASC, NGO, GWCT, CA etc should be putting out articles before this kind of bile is done, EVERY year we see the same anti propaganda and we just let it slide..

All very well but the left wing media (which is virtually all of it) will not publish it so it goes nowhere.

[ShootingEgg]

8 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

All very well but the left wing media (which is virtually all of it) will not publish it so it goes nowhere.

Which means the complaints are filed in the round tin next to the desk

[Yellow Bear]

12 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

Which means the complaints are filed in the round tin next to the desk

TBH the best bet is that one of them oversteps the mark and they get done for "hate speech",  inciting violence, or similar the way other minority groups seem to operate.

[ShootingEgg]

6 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

TBH the best bet is that one of them oversteps the mark and they get done for "hate speech",  inciting violence, or similar the way other minority groups seem to operate.

This is I think the only way. 

[Fellside]

I wonder if it is possible for a wealthy estate owner to sue the Guardian for libel - re harm to their reputation and business.

[Scully]

I’ll be firing off an email as soon as I get time; but busy this weekend. 

[Conor O'Gorman]

10 hours ago, Bobba said:

Your points are well made but doesn’t answer the query. Has, or will, the BASC be complaining? A simple answer yes or no will suffice.

Yes.

[Genghis]

I always have a chuckle when I hear a very, very middle class left-winger talking about class divisions.

The Guardian has almost exclusively middle-class columnists writing for an almost exclusively middle-class readership. Most who shoot pheasant are probably also from a middle-class background, so I’m not sure what he’s trying to say.