owain Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/30/britons-brexit-bad-uk-poll-eu-finances-nhs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 Waking up to the fact that our politicians did not want Brexit the civil servants did not want Brexit so who was going to implement it properly? We have been gaining steady trade with out EU help if we could get away from them completely it could be very good.If heaven forbid Labour win and they take us back in we will lose the Pound and prices will rise even more; Look at when Holland prices doubled overnight This is the real wakeup call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 Good to see the crying is still going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 2,000 people from 45,000,000+ registered voters is obviously entirely representative. Also what was the criteria for choosing who to ask? 🤔🙄 We had a vote. That's democracy in action, like it or not. Even Labour have dropped the chance after a 2nd vote. Put it aside and get on with life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Waking up to the fact we've been ignored again. They gave us a vote but they wanted us to vote to remain, trying to bend the public to stay and then attempted to prevent delivery of brexit at every opportunity once leave won. I've certainly woken up and am voting for a party (reform) that might at least deliver on its promises to its voters and will turn away from the EU and exploit the benefits of leaving, instead of trying to remain by stealth. Edited December 31, 2023 by 12gauge82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 All we need is a government that can do the job there being paid for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 Can I just point out how small the section was and that it was ALL Guardian readers..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 Newspapers todays news tomorrows fish super wrappers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Bigbob said: All we need is a government that can do the job there being paid for Agreed but I can assure you that won't come from either the cons or labour until they worry about loosing their grip on the voting public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 I think we are so much better off out of the EU The EU is sliding slowly off the edge of a financial cliff and its lucky for us that we are not tied to them or we would go too. More and more countries are talking openly about wanting to leave. We really are better off out than having to contribute towards their financial shortfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: I think we are so much better off out of the EU The EU is sliding slowly off the edge of a financial cliff and its lucky for us that we are not tied to them or we would go too. More and more countries are talking openly about wanting to leave. We really are better off out than having to contribute towards their financial shortfall Absolutely agreed, maybe Owain will wake up in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: I think we are so much better off out of the EU The EU is sliding slowly off the edge of a financial cliff and its lucky for us that we are not tied to them or we would go too. More and more countries are talking openly about wanting to leave. We really are better off out than having to contribute towards their financial shortfall No real argument over not contributing to their shortfalls, we don't seem to need that as we have our own downward spiral anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Absolutely agreed, maybe Owain will wake up in the future. Maybe some people should do a bit of research, rather than blind guessing? https://www.statista.com/statistics/1360467/euroscepticism-europeans-future-leave-eu/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, owain said: Maybe some people should do a bit of research, rather than blind guessing? https://www.statista.com/statistics/1360467/euroscepticism-europeans-future-leave-eu/ We know how accurate these polls are. The same as the predictions for a decisive remain vote before the EU referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) 1 minute ago, 12gauge82 said: We know how accurate these polls are. The same as the predictions for a decisive remain vote before the EU referendum. Care to provide a counter poll showing otherwise? Or anything to back up your points?? Edited January 1 by owain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, owain said: Care to provide a counter poll showing otherwise? Or anything to back up your points?? How about the referendum result, or trumps presidental victory, despite the polls showing the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 Just now, 12gauge82 said: How about the referendum result, or trumps presidental victory, despite the polls showing the opposite. We know the result of the vote, public opinion is now that it was the wrong move. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise. It has also been said that other countries will follow our lead, that is yet to happen. And judging by the link above, there is very little public appetite in other countries to do so. Again unless you can provide some information to the contrary. I can almost imagine members of this forum sitting at their computers with their fingers in their ears shouting “LA LA LA” 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, owain said: We know the result of the vote, public opinion is now that it was the wrong move. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise. It has also been said that other countries will follow our lead, that is yet to happen. And judging by the link above, there is very little public appetite in other countries to do so. Again unless you can provide some information to the contrary. I can almost imagine members of this forum sitting at their computers with their fingers in their ears shouting “LA LA LA” 😂 So your going to ignore some of the largest votes in recent history and claim that it was just people who made the wrong choice. I think that's not only wrong, but a very ignorant statement. I think it's you with your fingers in their ears shouting LA LA LA 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: So your going to ignore some of the largest votes in recent history and claim that it was just people who made the wrong choice. I think that's not only wrong, but a very ignorant statement. I think it's you with your fingers in their ears shouting LA LA LA 😂 I’m not disputing the result of the vote. But the majority of people now feel it was the wrong move. And get your own witty one liners 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Oh goodie another leaving was wrong post, completely ignoring the fact that they put blockers in the way to allow a smooth transition, the fact we went through a global pandemic then a global economic crisis. All the above Clearly all the UK's fault for voting leave. The sooner people get over it and start working to make it a good result the better 2000 people asked, yes that must make it the majority of the country. Christ on a motorbike, get back in you box already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, owain said: I’m not disputing the result of the vote. But the majority of people now feel it was the wrong move. And get your own witty one liners 😂😂 3 minutes ago, owain said: I’m not disputing the result of the vote. But the majority of people now feel it was the wrong move. And get your own witty one liners 😂😂 Because the guardian told you so, where's your referendum, there's only one opinion that's had one, but you can carry on reading the guardian with your fingers in your ears shouting LA LA LA 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 Just now, 12gauge82 said: Because the guardian told you so, where's your referendum, there's only one opinion that's had one, but you can carry on reading the guardian with your fingers in your ears shouting LA LA LA 😂 Well you’re wrong again, because we had a referendum to join. So we are currently one for one, I think best of 3 would best in this situation. I don’t read the guardian either, just using a source to prove a point. Something you seem unwilling, or (more likely) able to do. (LA LA LA) 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Just now, owain said: Well you’re wrong again, because we had a referendum to join. So we are currently one for one, I think best of 3 would best in this situation. I don’t read the guardian either, just using a source to prove a point. Something you seem unwilling, or (more likely) able to do. (LA LA LA) 😅 Is that the best you've got, a referendum from decades ago, which by the way was to join a common market and nothing to do with the EUs institutions they evolved into, which has since been superceded by one of the largest votes in history. Have you thought of getting some help for getting over brexit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 Just now, 12gauge82 said: Is that the best you've got, a referendum from decades ago, which by the way was to join a common market and nothing to do with the EUs institutions they evolved into, which has since been superceded by one of the largest votes in history. Have you thought of getting some help for getting over brexit? So that was a vote to join then. Thank you for confirming that for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 It is pointless to engage with Guardian readers.......or come to that with BSAC reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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