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49 minutes ago, oowee said:

We hold the US as a democracy. That standard is in question if the rule of law does not persist.  Certainly the confusion between law and state would not pass the tests for the EU

Youre actually comparing a democracy, where the people get to vote their leaders in, with the EU , where the only way you get to vote is for a completely ineffective MEP ?

And if Trump DOESNT get convicted, it's no longer a democracy ?

I suppose if Trump wins POTUS again , it's not democratic either ?

19 minutes ago, clangerman said:

democracy is just a promised land to keep the gullible under control and voting politicians only come in two flavours those who has been caught and those yet to be caught there is no third flavour of honesty! 

That's a pretty good assessment. 

15 minutes ago, ditchman said:

apparantly stormy daniels wee'd on him :w00t:

Of course she did :yes:

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32 minutes ago, London Best said:

Many would not even do that!

WHAT? !!!!!!!!!!!

not even if he was on fire 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 

50 minutes ago, ditchman said:

apparantly stormy daniels wee'd on him :w00t:

don't knock it😡

it's top drawer for jelly fish stings and apparently it's going to be a trial event in the upcoming Olympics in the "watersports" section 👍

 

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1 hour ago, welsh1 said:

I believe that binden had files and documents from when he was vice president stored in his garage, and the difference in which biden was dealt compared to trump  raises huge questions

On January 9, 2023, CBS News[1] reported that attorneys for U.S. President Joe Biden discovered classified government documents in his former office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C., and in his personal residence in Wilmington, Delaware, dating to his time in the United States Senate and his vice presidency in the Obama administration.[2][3][4] The number of documents was later revealed to be between 25 and 30. By June 2023, classified documents from Biden's Senate tenure were discovered in materials donated to the University of Delaware.[5][6]

not only that but apparently the files he had,he wasn't cleared to access them LET ALONE take them home with him.

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1 hour ago, oowee said:

We hold the US as a democracy. That standard is in question if the rule of law does not persist. 

Those that care about the world within which we live should be. 

Is it in the public interest to pursue 🤔

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21 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said:

Is it in the public interest to pursue

Its in the democratic parties interest obviously, they will use any trick, organisation, legal or illegal means to keep him out the WH.
The fact that this is glaringly obvious to the American people, will not help the dems win, but it might help Trump.
But then the left never seem to appreciate that the electorate have intelligence.

1 hour ago, London Best said:

Many would not even do that!

Lets be honest, its just an attempt to paint Trump as a bit weird, make him less palatable, and despite the fact that it has no relevance to the case whatsoever, the judge allowed weegate to be aired.

If Ms Daniels had just stated they only had consensual 'vanilla' sex, it wouldnt really be worth airing, so it had to be jazzed up somewhat.

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2 hours ago, Rewulf said:

 

And if Trump DOESNT get convicted, it's no longer a democracy ?

I suppose if Trump wins POTUS again , it's not democratic either ?

 

Whys that? Either outcome could be fair. 

It's not democratic to mix state and the law including judges that cannot be replaced.

If the trial's do not go through due process, whatever the outcome, then that is not democracy.  

There are still many hurdles to completion of due process (Judge Cannon being one of them). 

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3 minutes ago, ditchman said:

what is "vanilla sex "....please ???

 

1 minute ago, Penelope said:

Missionary with the lights off.

Exactly , and allegedly the type practiced by Mr Trump in his err, encounter with Ms Daniels.

The problem with her testimony is that , she has embellished the account with various other insulting information regarding him, then negated the whole account by announcing she wished it never happened, that she hates him, and wants him to go to jail.
Basically , she tried to turned it into a sexual assault trial,
But she  err, wont be giving back the 130k , as she 'earned it' :lol:

 

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Just now, Rewulf said:

 

Exactly , and allegedly the type practiced by Mr Trump in his err, encounter with Ms Daniels.

The problem with her testimony is that , she has embellished the account with various other insulting information regarding him, then negated the whole account by announcing she wished it never happened, that she hates him, and wants him to go to jail.
Basically , she tried to turned it into a sexual assault trial,
But she  err, wont be giving back the 130k , as she 'earned it' 

 

Once a brass, always a brass.

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17 hours ago, Red696 said:

Does anyone truly care what happens to Trump or any of those involved?  It’s just a poor version of ‘reality’ TV, maybe they can set up phone lines and the ‘sad sacks’ amongst us can have a vote on guilty or innocent.   Make sure you ask the bill payers permission before voting….

Well said 

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The man is a crook, his father was a crook.  His father laundered billions of dollars of dirty money for the mafia into so called legit real estate developments and the Trump fortune came from those property deals

Trump has spent a lot of time distancing himself from the mafia connections but the truth is he is still a mafiao and always will be. 

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9 hours ago, Vince Green said:

The man is a crook, his father was a crook.  His father laundered billions of dollars of dirty money for the mafia into so called legit real estate developments and the Trump fortune came from those property deals

Trump has spent a lot of time distancing himself from the mafia connections but the truth is he is still a mafiao and always will be. 

did his father get convicted/go to prison for ANY of the crimes you accuse him of OR any others EVER🤔

as far as i can see,he was arrested twice in his life with both of the arrests being nothing to do with financial matters.

are you just another (closet Democrat) Donald hater that makes accusations with either no or little proof that actually stands up (in court)

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10 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said:

did his father get convicted/go to prison for ANY of the crimes you accuse him of OR any others EVER🤔

as far as i can see,he was arrested twice in his life with both of the arrests being nothing to do with financial matters.

are you just another (closet Democrat) Donald hater that makes accusations with either no or little proof that actually stands up (in court)

Does this have anything to do with Democrat or Republican? The man is disgusting. 

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1 hour ago, oowee said:

Does this have anything to do with Democrat or Republican? The man is disgusting. 

which "man" ?

Donald or his dad?

Vince Green,on a public forum,makes a libelous and totally untrue statement about the Trump family,i shoot him down in a massive array of flames AND THEN you want to to move the goalposts 🤔

go figure,as Donald would say in court👍

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If a president can pardon any and all crimes when in office, why doesnt Joe Biden just go down to see Donny boy and blow Donnies brains (the few that he has)out up the wall. Either he could pardon his conduct or if the body guard shot Joe them it woulddo everyone a favour and reset the job to find a suitable candidate. 

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