Cawdor118 Posted August 19, 2024 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2024 1 hour ago, BobbyH said: So….i have sat down at checked a brand new slab of FBlu’s,l and taken some stats I counted 45 that were not crimped with consistency, too far down or not enough but not enough to really be concerned about. 5 were obviously defects as per below. so, only 2% of the 250 carts were noticed as potentially defective. Is this enough to warrant a move to a different brand such as Eley Selects for example? I personally think Eley Selects are underwhelming. Im a big Fiocchi fan, but im not a fan of their QC at this present time. If you're looking for a cheaper decent shell, you could do worse than Hull Sporting 100, Eley Superb or Cheddite Rapeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted August 19, 2024 Report Share Posted August 19, 2024 Just now, Cawdor118 said: I personally think Eley Selects are underwhelming. Im a big Fiocchi fan, but im not a fan of their QC at this present time. If you're looking for a cheaper decent shell, you could do worse than Hull Sporting 100, Eley Superb or Cheddite Rapeed. I was taught on TT21 (The green ones) and I loved them, but can’t get any more at the moment….Would love to get some more I am also a big fan of the Litespeeds…..Not very thumpy for me, and a 26g load! So I am a Fiocchi fan, but they just seem very inconsistent at the moment, but still shoot fine!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted August 20, 2024 Report Share Posted August 20, 2024 Update. After contacting fiocchi uk regarding the 20 gauge steel cartridge issues i had I'd also said i had a large order already in place and i was concerned. Well i went to collect them yesterday and free cartridges had been added to my order. It looks like the issue i had was insufficient shot causing sunken crimps. No reply from fiocchi as yet though . Pleased with the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 20, 2024 Report Share Posted August 20, 2024 16 minutes ago, mellors said: Update. After contacting fiocchi uk regarding the 20 gauge steel cartridge issues i had I'd also said i had a large order already in place and i was concerned. Well i went to collect them yesterday and free cartridges had been added to my order. It looks like the issue i had was insufficient shot causing sunken crimps. No reply from fiocchi as yet though . Pleased with the result. How many compensation cartridges did they give you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted August 20, 2024 Report Share Posted August 20, 2024 5 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: How many compensation cartridges did they give you? I box. Only had 4 duds Happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliedog Posted August 20, 2024 Report Share Posted August 20, 2024 11 hours ago, Cawdor118 said: I personally think Eley Selects are underwhelming. Im a big Fiocchi fan, but im not a fan of their QC at this present time. If you're looking for a cheaper decent shell, you could do worse than Hull Sporting 100, Eley Superb or Cheddite Rapeed. Eley superb are not a cheap shell, the selects are a surprisingly good cartridge in my opinion, I would happily shoot them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted August 20, 2024 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2024 17 minutes ago, Charliedog said: Eley superb are not a cheap shell, the selects are a surprisingly good cartridge in my opinion, I would happily shoot them. £314/1k with me at the moment. So only £14/1000 more than FBlack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylye Posted August 20, 2024 Report Share Posted August 20, 2024 Look - we are paying through the nose for cartridges. You only get three for a quid for goodness sake! Any quality issues are totally unacceptable in my view for a product at this price. Free cartridges? Joke. Move on. Change brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.357shooter Posted September 8, 2024 Report Share Posted September 8, 2024 bit late to this but i have had a lot of missfires from the f3,s i normally use.local gunsmith say the primers are hard and causing a lot of problems with firing pins.he has had so many lately.mine is now at the shop due to my problems.will not be using anymore after the current ones are used up in my semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted September 8, 2024 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2024 2 hours ago, .357shooter said: bit late to this but i have had a lot of missfires from the f3,s i normally use.local gunsmith say the primers are hard and causing a lot of problems with firing pins.he has had so many lately.mine is now at the shop due to my problems.will not be using anymore after the current ones are used up in my semi. I have never used F3's myself but a few of my friends have totally given up on Fiocchi as well. I must admit, I will be getting more Rossas, but not the UK made stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted September 8, 2024 Report Share Posted September 8, 2024 Are the quality issues being caused by shells now being UK by Lyalvale Express who stuff never really impressed me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted September 8, 2024 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2024 27 minutes ago, grahamch said: Are the quality issues being caused by shells now being UK by Lyalvale Express who stuff never really impressed me? Its suspected so going through the thread. Though, cant be confirmed 100% in every case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpmilo Posted September 8, 2024 Report Share Posted September 8, 2024 I have been using Lyalvale power blues and power golds ( close on 15k)for the last 2 years after problems with F Blacks, I have never had a problem with them and that is through 725s Browning and a 694. I have only seen Richard Faulds and Charlie Faulds have 1 ftf with Lyalvale carts. I know a fair few shooters using power golds that have changed from Fiocchi, not heard any bad reports. The only Fiocchi I use now are Rossas, but very rarely with all the close targets these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted September 8, 2024 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2024 54 minutes ago, mpmilo said: I have been using Lyalvale power blues and power golds ( close on 15k)for the last 2 years after problems with F Blacks, I have never had a problem with them and that is through 725s Browning and a 694. I have only seen Richard Faulds and Charlie Faulds have 1 ftf with Lyalvale carts. I know a fair few shooters using power golds that have changed from Fiocchi, not heard any bad reports. The only Fiocchi I use now are Rossas, but very rarely with all the close targets these days. I have never tried Power Golds in truth. Im sure they are fine, but in general I don't really shoot Lyalvale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu nesling Posted October 12, 2024 Report Share Posted October 12, 2024 this is the box and contents that i had 2 misfires in 1 box and the other 4 boxes i used were fine. bottom of the cartridge box says made in italy, so not confined to the UK made ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 another Fiocchi issue!? Shot not in the wad properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted January 6 Author Report Share Posted January 6 On 28/12/2024 at 17:50, BobbyH said: another Fiocchi issue!? Shot not in the wad properly Agreed, though I suspect you may get that issue with others, but given they use opaque cases, we would never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecman Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 I have just opened up two fiocchi black 28g shells one made in Italy and the other one in England,the one from Italy has 21.8 grns of powder and a fiocchi wad and the other has 17 grns of powder and a bpz2h both seem to have identical powder and primer just wondering if anyone else has noticed this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Never noticed this, never really looked to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 No, I only open stuff up if I observe a problem while shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 I will be buying some slabs of FBlack’s and TT1’s just to give them a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 On 19/08/2024 at 19:30, BobbyH said: So….i have sat down at checked a brand new slab of FBlu’s,l and taken some stats I counted 45 that were not crimped with consistency, too far down or not enough but not enough to really be concerned about. 5 were obviously defects as per below. so, only 2% of the 250 carts were noticed as potentially defective. Is this enough to warrant a move to a different brand such as Eley Selects for example? Hello, Eley Select ( lead ) for Clays ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 46 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Eley Select ( lead ) for Clays ?? Yeah, I used to use them in 24 gram lift clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 22 minutes ago, BobbyH said: Yeah, I used to use them in 24 gram lift clays Hello, Been using them Pigeon shooting, still have some left since i bought a few 1000s years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 The thing I am noticing with some Fiochi fibres is the amount of “confetti” in the air after every shot about 10 yards out! Never seen this with any other fibre wad cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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