12gauge82 Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, Rem260 said: The governments political violence advisor was on Sky news decrying the violence on both sides. Calling out the right wing as thugs and criminals and then those on the left as doing it for noble causes such as Just Stop Oil. I couldn't believe he actually said it out aloud on national TV. I'm glad to hear it. Let's have it right, there are extremists on all sides, none of which should be tolerated. 49 minutes ago, Wymondley said: They will of course all be labelled "Far right" thugs. I suspect most coppers know which group are more likely to come at them with a machete or knife and may act accordingly. I don't believe that's the full extent of whats behind it and in some cases is actually the opposite. There has been serious violence and disorder by many groups, the police were literally chased off by some and allowed the mob to burn itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 3 hours ago, Gordon R said: You don't have to mount a high horse to spot a really nasty comment. Nothing to do with language used. It was just pathetic. If you can't see that you are a fool. The tiresome selective quoting when responding does you no favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 Quote The tiresome selective quoting when responding does you no favours. I thank you for your junior critique. By continuing a rather silly point of view, you have confirmed that you are indeed a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: I don't believe that's the full extent of whats behind it and in some cases is actually the opposite. Indeed, I'm sure those behind the scenes stoking up violence have an agenda, and they certainly aren't to the right in their politics. Stand by to have some more freedoms removed in the name of law and order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 13 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I thank you for your junior critique. By continuing a rather silly point of view, you have confirmed that you are indeed a fool. Yet you repeat the mistake. And personal insults are disappointing, but predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 On 02/08/2024 at 22:17, Weihrauch17 said: Starmer's speech yesterday basically said we will come down as hard as we can on White Protestors all tarred with the same brush of being right wing extremists and anyone demonstrating in London for Palestine etc or rioting in Leeds for example can carry on with impunity. He has made things a lot worse and is totally tone deaf. Southport isn't the whole story, it is the straw that broke the Camels back. Part of the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 Can we please stop the insults and name calling. We will close this topic if it doesn’t stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: I'm glad to hear it. Let's have it right, there are extremists on all sides, none of which should be tolerated. I don't believe that's the full extent of whats behind it and in some cases is actually the opposite. There has been serious violence and disorder by many groups, the police were literally chased off by some and allowed the mob to burn itself out. Though he intimated that the left were more tolerable than the right. I would imagine those that have their property destroyed by the left shouldn't feel so bad as those who have it destroyed by the right by his reckoning? Edited August 4 by Rem260 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 On 03/08/2024 at 09:07, Rewulf said: +1 If it gets much worse , I might jump on a ferry somewhere and claim asylum, stating that I'm being victimised in my own country for political views. I reckon I've got a chance these days. A very valid point. On 03/08/2024 at 10:18, sportsbob said: A very good post, however it uses terms like "Race" and "pigmentation" where many believe the problem lies with a persons "culture" and the race issue is bought into play as a smoke screen to deflect valid criticism. You also say that " Nowhere on this planet is it deemed socially acceptable to go around slashing and stabbing other people" however it does seem to be some peoples "culture" . Exactly, it's a cultural issue, with a good dash of crime (mostly drugs) and a lack of will to police effectively, through fear of bing deamed racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 On 03/08/2024 at 12:36, TIGHTCHOKE said: Prime Minister, Ministers and Police Chiefs all saying how naughty these rioters are without actually appearing to understand why some people are doing this. Let's have a reality check for those in charge. They understand, but it doesn't suit their narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 Just now, Penelope said: They understand, but it doesn't suit their narrative. Possibly, they still need to deal with it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, Penelope said: They understand, but it doesn't suit their narrative. It certainly doesn't, I really can't understand how this government just seems to ignore what's going on and continues to allow the flow of immigrants, they blocked the Tories from doing anything and now we have riots across the country. Has Farage and his party had anything to say about things?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 On 03/08/2024 at 16:32, Mungler said: And don’t forget to pro-rata the stats, that shows up where the disproportions are…. Ditto for prison populations. Indeed it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 7 hours ago, Mice! said: Mungler beat me to it, our lot will have the same figures, but there's no chance they'll make them public. Have the Danes managed to do anything though knowing the numbers? They used to until recently, but it wasn't good reading as far as non white immigration was concerned. 6 hours ago, Mice! said: As soon as the idiots start throwing things and burning cars they've lost any support from the general public, but the chances are they are only there to cause trouble anyway, especially when you see them masked up, wearing masks at protestshould be made illegal, as its only being done to hide your identity meaning your going to cause trouble. A lot of Police provocation at some of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 22 hours ago, Mice! said: wearing masks at protestshould be made illegal This is impossible since all the scaremongering of covid and forcing the public to wear one for their 'safety' especially when in large crowds. 20 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: If there's one thing that causes anger and resentment faster than anything, it's unfairness and treating people differently, especially if punishment is involved. There is a name for treating someone differently because of the pigmentation of their skin, what is it called again.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 10 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: This is impossible since all the scaremongering of covid and forcing the public to wear one for their 'safety' especially when in large crowds. I believe there were orders passed yesterday to instruct “protesters” to remove face coverings over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: I believe there were orders passed yesterday to instruct “protesters” to remove face coverings over the weekend. You may be right, but I fear a good solicitor will easily counter these using the government's own public health ruling during covid. I can see crys of wrongful arrest, and putting peoples health at risk. I hope I am wrong, but this is a rod the government have made for themselves. Edited August 5 by Newbie to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 51 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: I believe there were orders passed yesterday to instruct “protesters” to remove face coverings over the weekend. To both sides, where both were present? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 50 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: You may be right, but I fear a good solicitor will easily counter these using the government's own public health ruling during covid. I can see crys of wrongful arrest, and putting peoples health at risk. I hope I am wrong, but this is a rod the government have made for themselves. Bigger fish to fry imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 1 hour ago, Newbie to this said: You may be right, but I fear a good solicitor will easily counter these using the government's own public health ruling during covid. I can see crys of wrongful arrest, and putting peoples health at risk. I hope I am wrong, but this is a rod the government have made for themselves. Rubbish mate, all they are doing is hiding their faces so they can't be ID afterwards. Then you get people sat on chairs at the side of a burning building not giving two figs who sees him, madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 42 minutes ago, Penelope said: To both sides, where both were present? Obviously msm were only focusing on the “far right”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: Obviously msm were only focusing on the “far right”. And that is a significant part of the problem. The powers that be only tell one half of the story. Have you watched the documentary Silenced, by Tommy Robinson? Whether you like him or not, it's worth a watch to see the how duplicitous the powers that be, are in forwarding their agenda and narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 1 hour ago, Penelope said: ... how duplicitous the powers that be, are in forwarding their agenda and narrative. Which "powers that be"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 11 minutes ago, henry d said: Which "powers that be"? In this instance the Conservative Government and Teresa May. Watch it, inform yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 1 hour ago, Penelope said: And that is a significant part of the problem. The powers that be only tell one half of the story. Have you watched the documentary Silenced, by Tommy Robinson? Whether you like him or not, it's worth a watch to see the how duplicitous the powers that be, are in forwarding their agenda and narrative. i watched it at the weekend after my son recommended it. one rule for one and another for everyone else😡 a bit like when he was arrested earlier this year for having a breakfast in a cafe in Comrade Khans Londinium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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