harrycatcat1 Posted September 27 Author Report Share Posted September 27 They have money for illegal migration though for someone that has never contributed a penny to society 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudey Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 Haven't read every reply yet but the 1 thing that I still struggle with around the decision to remove winter fuel payments from pensioners that don't qualify is how exactly is this saving money to fill a black hole? The government is asking those that may not qualify to check, since people that may be eligible for pension credit that aren't already claiming it should now claim. Also to check that you may be able to get help in the way of grants and other benefits or government funding. So by now giving out more money to people that were not claiming these things before, the government is essentially paying out more money instead of saving money to fill a black hole. Which just astounds me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 4 hours ago, Dudey said: the government is essentially paying out more money instead of saving money to fill a black hole. It was never about saving money. It was in the Tory budget figures. The 'black hole' is essentially of Labour's making by awarding large inflation busting increases to various 'public service' (in which I include rail staff) employees. Pensioners (as a group) tend to mainly vote 'other than Labour' - they have seen what Labour do. It was making a political point. The actual money saved against the (alleged) black hole is not game changing, and as you rightly say, the saving will actually be much less than the simple figure. Same with the 'hit the non doms' policy - which I understand analysts now say will produce virtually zero income, but will drive out wealth creators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 That's the politics of socialist envy for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 7 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: That's the politics of socialist envy for you. /\. Exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Just wait till the deaths start hitting the front pages around Christmas Every year old people die of hypothermia and it barely gets mentioned. This year it will be different, the papers and the news channels will all over every case. Political suicide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 5 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Just wait till the deaths start hitting the front pages around Christmas It's Labours way of tackling the NHS under capacity, the care home under capacity, the local authority social care under capacity and the growing pensions liability. Price people out of living to an old age at which they become needy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Very good.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 2 hours ago, amateur said: Funny if taken as the joke its meant to be but if its a cold winter it may be very near the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Well chatting today with one old wag over half a pint, he postulated that Labour seemed hell bent on sucking every bit of enjoyment out of his way of life to give it to everyone else who shows up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 10 minutes ago, old man said: Well chatting today with one old wag over half a pint, he postulated that Labour seemed hell bent on sucking every bit of enjoyment out of his way of life to give it to everyone else who shows up? They seem to be losing a lot of fans due to the winter fuel allowance and doing nothing to stop the boats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 now ive lost my WFA,,,ive been looking at ways to save money...so i thought i could save on my washing machine....and thus i have got rid of all my "Y" fronts and boxer shorts ..and i went on line and bought off Amazon (Next) a packet of 6 thongs for £9.95 inc P&P..... well there is certainly a lot less to wash...and they arnt very big at the front ...but i tell you now the old thong dont 'alf chafe me anaus summut chronic its like like having yer gums flossed when you dont ave no teef with a bit of rope.... no wonder women talk funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 3 minutes ago, ditchman said: now ive lost my WFA,,,ive been looking at ways to save money...so i thought i could save on my washing machine....and thus i have got rid of all my "Y" fronts and boxer shorts ..and i went on line and bought off Amazon (Next) a packet of 6 thongs for £9.95 inc P&P..... well there is certainly a lot less to wash...and they arnt very big at the front ...but i tell you now the old thong dont 'alf chafe me anaus summut chronic its like like having yer gums flossed when you dont ave no teef with a bit of rope.... no wonder women talk funny You need comfort at your age and to hell with the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 1 minute ago, amateur said: You need comfort at your age and to hell with the cost. That was exactly what I thought , maybe Simon can get some disposable underwear on prescription to save a few bob , in his area they might even be by royal approval .  MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 12 minutes ago, amateur said: You need comfort at your age and to hell with the cost. That's easy to say but if you can't afford it you can't afford it, simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 (edited) 8 minutes ago, marsh man said: That was exactly what I thought , maybe Simon can get some disposable underwear on prescription to save a few bob , in his area they might even be by royal approval .  MM ive even been reduced to washing my Tenna Ladies by hand........... 'cause when im doing my yoga ...i let it go ole mate..... Edited September 30 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 21 minutes ago, Luckyshot said: That's easy to say but if you can't afford it you can't afford it, simple as that. Have you seen how well he eats? Luxury, sheer luxury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 41 minutes ago, ditchman said: now ive lost my WFA,,,ive been looking at ways to save money...so i thought i could save on my washing machine....and thus i have got rid of all my "Y" fronts and boxer shorts ..and i went on line and bought off Amazon (Next) a packet of 6 thongs for £9.95 inc P&P..... well there is certainly a lot less to wash...and they arnt very big at the front ...but i tell you now the old thong dont 'alf chafe me anaus summut chronic its like like having yer gums flossed when you dont ave no teef with a bit of rope.... no wonder women talk funny  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: Â I didn't realise that you wore them too. You are looking well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 That is Ditchman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: That is Ditchman. Nah! Hair's wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Just now, amateur said: Nah! Hair's wrong Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Where? For a shooter, your eyesight is dire. Edited September 30 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 now that is somewthing you cant unsee.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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