Winter fuel allowance gone 🤔

[TOPGUN749]

Funny how the government still has plenty of money to give out £2264 a year in child benefit for two children to parents each earning up to £80,000 a year,yet can’t afford £200-£300 a year for pensioners on £12,000 a year!

I estimate there are probably around 15 million children being claimed for costing £17 billion,10 times as much as pensioners were getting!

Edited September 14, 2024 by TOPGUN749

[Ratlegs]

Just wondering how much all the prisioners that are being released get on top of the jumping the housing queue in london

[ShootingEgg]

52 minutes ago, TOPGUN749 said:

Funny how the government still has plenty of money to give out £2264 a year in child benefit for two children to parents each earning up to £80,000

Unsure if you have small humans or not, but I have one and she goes into nursery 2 days a week, and my partner does a 3 day week. We get about £100 a month on child benefit.. feel free to tell me how I feed, clothes and pay nursery fees. For £100. 👍🏻

It's a nice extra but really does nothing in the grand scheme of things.

[TOPGUN749]

19 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

Unsure if you have small humans or not, but I have one and she goes into nursery 2 days a week, and my partner does a 3 day week. We get about £100 a month on child benefit.. feel free to tell me how I feed, clothes and pay nursery fees. For £100. 👍🏻

It's a nice extra but really does nothing in the grand scheme of things.

I can understand child benefit for working families on say up to £40,000 a year,but not for all,some will be getting 2 salaries of up to £80,000. Child benefit is not designed to pay for a child’s food, clothes,and nursery fees,that’s what wages are for. If £17 billion isn’t much in the scheme of things how is a winter fuel allowance of 1.5 billion too much and has to be stopped?

if you think it’s tough bringing up one child while you’re working how is it for a single pensioner getting £221 a week?Many still paying council tax,some rent etc.Child benefit should be means tested in a similar way to winter fuel allowance,set an income threshold at around £40,000 per household,which is almost 4 times the pension threshold.

Edited September 14, 2024 by TOPGUN749

[Penelope]

Never mind, at least the hypocrite 2TK can take a bung for his Mrs. frocks.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, On the news today, A pensioner who is £2.60p over the weekly payment threshold of £218 which you can apply for pension credit stated he will loose £500 extra per month of Credit payments, this may mean paying no or less Council Tax or other related financial incentives 

[JohnfromUK]

9 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, On the news today, A pensioner who is £2.60p over the weekly payment threshold of £218 which you can apply for pension credit stated he will loose £500 extra per month of Credit payments, this may mean paying no or less Council Tax or other related financial incentives 

That's what happens with crude 'means' assessments and policies dreamed up without real thought.

The whole 'benefits' system is dis-functional, hugely over complex, badly structured, appallingly badly run, very expensive and complex to operate and really only favours those (relatively few) who are in a really bad situation and those who are prepared to cheat and lie (and of course provides loads of Civil Service jobs)

[dainty duck]

On 12/09/2024 at 09:23, TOPGUN749 said:

They say 23% of pensioners are worth over £1 million,due mainly to house values,not sure if that’s true,but most pensioners are really in the £11,000 to £15,000 each I think! Some with good work pensions will be over £20,000 total income.

Still illegal aliens to me!🤣🤣

and still illegal Invaders to me 🤔

[TOPGUN749]

2 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, On the news today, A pensioner who is £2.60p over the weekly payment threshold of £218 which you can apply for pension credit stated he will loose £500 extra per month of Credit payments, this may mean paying no or less Council Tax or other related financial incentives 

I can’t see how the loss could be as much as £6,000 a year. Even if they had a big house and got their council tax all paid for that might be £3,000,heating allowance £200-£300 depending on age.

[TOPGUN749]

2 hours ago, Penelope said:

Never mind, at least the hypocrite 2TK can take a bung for his Mrs. frocks.

A salary of £160,000 as Pm and other money he makes elsewhere and someone gives clothes for his wife! You couldn’t make it up!

[Penelope]

52 minutes ago, TOPGUN749 said:

A salary of £160,000 as Pm and other money he makes elsewhere and someone gives clothes for his wife! You couldn’t make it up!

And the donor gets a pass for 10 Downing Street for it.

[ditchman]

On 14/09/2024 at 07:35, TOPGUN749 said:

Funny how the government still has plenty of money to give out £2264 a year in child benefit for two children to parents each earning up to £80,000 a year,yet can’t afford £200-£300 a year for pensioners on £12,000 a year!

I estimate there are probably around 15 million children being claimed for costing £17 billion,10 times as much as pensioners were getting!

good point.......proberly something to do with losing votes

[TOPGUN749]

1 hour ago, ditchman said:

good point.......proberly something to do with losing votes

Something political like that obviously! We have millionaires in the House of Lords being handed out £300 a day to sit there and probably enjoy subsidised bar prices. Bet they won’t stop those benefits!

[old man]

On 16/09/2024 at 11:37, TOPGUN749 said:

A salary of £160,000 as Pm and other money he makes elsewhere and someone gives clothes for his wife! You couldn’t make it up!

Of course you can, greedy 99%?

The way forward, use everyone's money before your own?

[JohnfromUK]

On 16/09/2024 at 11:37, TOPGUN749 said:

A salary of £160,000 as Pm and other money he makes elsewhere and someone gives clothes for his wife! You couldn’t make it up!

Our Chancellor of the Exchequer (reminder - the person in charge of the national finances) has said (pre election) she 'struggles' at the end of the month.  This is despite earning £86K as an MP, and having a husband (Civil Servant) earning £170K and taking expenses and 'business costs' of roughly £250K (including staff)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1852632/labour-mp-high-salary-increasingly-short

https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/rachel-reeves/4031

This is the person trusted to be prudent and sensible in spending OUR money.

[Penelope]

41 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

Our Chancellor of the Exchequer (reminder - the person in charge of the national finances) has said (pre election) she 'struggles' at the end of the month.  This is despite earning £86K as an MP, and having a husband (Civil Servant) earning £170K and taking expenses and 'business costs' of roughly £250K (including staff)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1852632/labour-mp-high-salary-increasingly-short

https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/rachel-reeves/4031

This is the person trusted to be prudent and sensible in spending OUR money.

Does she have a coke habit? Can't see how anyone would get through that amount otherwise.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

2 minutes ago, Penelope said:

Does she have a coke habit? Can't see how anyone would get through that amount otherwise.

 

[Mr. Merkel]

As leader of the opposition he regularly accused the Conservative Government of sleaze, he has only been PM for a matter of weeks and his involved in sleaze himself and we have years to come before we get the chance to get rid of them,  I really am not looking forward to the next few years.

[JohnfromUK]

4 minutes ago, Penelope said:

Does she have a coke habit? Can't see how anyone would get through that amount otherwise.

It's easy to spend other peoples money.

1 minute ago, Mr. Merkel said:

As leader of the opposition he regularly accused the Conservative Government of sleaze, he has only been PM for a matter of weeks and his involved in sleaze himself and we have years to come before we get the chance to get rid of them

I have come to the conclusion that (virtually) all MPs are sleazy, greedy, untruthful and lazy.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

3 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

It's easy to spend other peoples money.

I have come to the conclusion that (virtually) all MPs are sleazy, greedy, untruthful and lazy.

SAD isn't it............

[Mr. Merkel]

3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

SAD isn't it............

I make you so right on that, expenses, second homes expenses on them, being aloud to rent them out its all wrong and should never have got this far.

[Newbie to this]

26 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

I have come to the conclusion that (virtually) all MPs are sleazy, greedy, untruthful and lazy.

 

22 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

SAD isn't it............

Sad, but true.

I rarely have contempt/distain for anyone, but for politicians, I have it in abundance..

[old man]

2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:

Our Chancellor of the Exchequer (reminder - the person in charge of the national finances) has said (pre election) she 'struggles' at the end of the month.  This is despite earning £86K as an MP, and having a husband (Civil Servant) earning £170K and taking expenses and 'business costs' of roughly £250K (including staff)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1852632/labour-mp-high-salary-increasingly-short

https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/rachel-reeves/4031

This is the person trusted to be prudent and sensible in spending OUR money.

Trusted by some maybe? Poor Rachel?

1 hour ago, Penelope said:

Does she have a coke habit? Can't see how anyone would get through that amount otherwise.

Some of us would give it a fair go? Not the coke bit. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Merkel said:

As leader of the opposition he regularly accused the Conservative Government of sleaze, he has only been PM for a matter of weeks and his involved in sleaze himself and we have years to come before we get the chance to get rid of them,  I really am not looking forward to the next few years.

Certainly could be carp, closely followed by more carp?

[old man]

1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

SAD isn't it............

Seems to be that the truth usually hurts?

[JohnfromUK]