Flashman Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, janner said: Its down right disliking of the colour of the immigrant. When you previously said, “my compatriots”, who do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, janner said: I just knew it was gbnews and the mail that many on here glean their 'facts' from and repeat without checking for themselves, You dont need a graph from some cockamamie institute to realise that the reason for the anti immigration threads is not immigration per se, Its down right disliking of the colour of the immigrant. Well it isn't is it I'd take a guess it's down to the strain it's putting on the country the terrorist threat and the stabbing incidents that are happening daily like the Romainian guy the other day who is eastern European so nothing to do with skin colour at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 (edited) 22 minutes ago, janner said: I just knew it was gbnews and the mail that many on here glean their 'facts' from and repeat without checking for themselves, You dont need a graph from some cockamamie institute to realise that the reason for the anti immigration threads is not immigration per se, Its down right disliking of the colour of the immigrant. You are priceless 😆 Graphs were from Statista. Very much not cockamamie. Again, you expose your sheer ignorance. Back to Poland and Hungary, exclude the temporary Ukrainian spike for 2023, and what we have is year on year next to zero net immigration and an economy which is set to overtake ours in 5 years. Explain to me again why we need uncontrolled mass immigration to get our pizzas delivered? PS This is the link to the Statista website so you can better research your subject matter and gain a little understanding of the discussion points in hand: https://www.statista.com Your welcome. PPS The immediate reach for the race card ‘it’s all about colour eh’ is expected / standard. Rather than have a discussion centring on facts and figures, play the race card 👍 . Edited August 15 by Mungler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, janner said: I just knew it was gbnews and the mail that many on here glean their 'facts' from and repeat without checking for themselves, You dont need a graph from some cockamamie institute to realise that the reason for the anti immigration threads is not immigration per se, Its down right disliking of the colour of the immigrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 15 Author Report Share Posted August 15 13 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Embarrassingly misinformed. Careful - that might get considered to be embarrassoginistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 (edited) Statista is known to be unreliable, That is a fact, Not a gb news or mail fact but a true fact. It has been described by many professional staticians as unreliable and misleading, biased and propagandist, Just the sort of organisation for the rabid right wing xenophobes to get their data from and to further their twisted ideology. "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth". J Goebbals B 1897 D 1945 Edited August 15 by janner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 27 minutes ago, janner said: Statista is known to be unreliable, That is a fact, Not a gb news or mail fact but a true fact. It has been described by many professional staticians as unreliable and misleading, biased and propagandist, Just the sort of organisation for the rabid right wing xenophobes to get their data from and to further their twisted ideology. "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth". J Goebbals B 1897 D 1945 “There's none so blind as they that won't see.” Jonathan Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, janner said: Statista is known to be unreliable, That is a fact, Not a gb news or mail fact but a true fact. It has been described by many professional staticians as unreliable and misleading, biased and propagandist, Just the sort of organisation for the rabid right wing xenophobes to get their data from and to further their twisted ideology. "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth". J Goebbals B 1897 D 1945 Perhaps you keep missing this question: When you previously said, “my compatriots”, who do you mean? Edited August 15 by Flashman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 50 minutes ago, janner said: Statista is known to be unreliable, That is a fact, Not a gb news or mail fact but a true fact. It has been described by many professional staticians as unreliable and misleading, biased and propagandist, Just the sort of organisation for the rabid right wing xenophobes to get their data from and to further their twisted ideology. "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth". J Goebbals B 1897 D 1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, janner said: Not a gb news or mail fact but a true fact. Must be a BBC 'fact' then ? 😆 2 hours ago, janner said: Its down right disliking of the colour of the immigrant. Is that why Poland is fine taking 'white' Ukrainians, but not the err.. other type of refugee ? 1 hour ago, janner said: It has been described by many professional staticians as unreliable and misleading, biased and propagandist, Just the sort of organisation for the rabid right wing xenophobes to get their data from and to further their twisted ideology. Is data from Statista reliable? : r/PhD Reddit · r/PhD 20+ comments · 1 year ago Their data is biased, misleading and propagandist. Citing their data makes an article a joke. 8 answers · Top answer: Their infotainment graphs are notorious for cherrypicking data, and unle I see youve used a good reliable source for your 'professional statisticians' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 Despite not agreeing with a single point that janner has failed to make, I admire that he never lets facts cloud the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 8 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Despite not agreeing with a single point that janner has failed to make, I admire that he never lets facts cloud the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 5 hours ago, janner said: Statista is known to be unreliable, That is a fact, Not a gb news or mail fact but a true fact. It has been described by many professional staticians as unreliable and misleading, biased and propagandist, Just the sort of organisation for the rabid right wing xenophobes to get their data from and to further their twisted ideology. You are funny. So you have quoted as a fact that Satista is unreliable - do you have a source please? In short, I don't believe you, I think you are incorrect and further, I think you just made that up. You do appreciate that Statista has reported and produced tables and graphs of data for no particular purpose other than that is what that company does - it's a large German company that collects, amalgamates and presents data. You appear to suggest that Statista is there just for right wing xenophobes (I see you're learning and that you were careful not to lazily reach for "racist" again, but we all know that's what you want to say and mean) just to win arguments with idiots on internet forums. I can see them in their large glass offices in Hamburg, 1000+ staff all in a big meeting where they are planning on deliberately misrepresenting Polish immigration data (and consequential tables, graphs and pie charts) just so that fabricated data can be used by right wingers with common sense (that's us) against loud know nothing lefties (that's you). As I said, you are funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 I’m on my second bag of popcorn reading this thread. I think several people are having their chains pulled here which is equally as funny as some of Janners comments. Then there’s the comedy of populists citing data and facts, I’m not contesting the data here but just find the selective reliance of the same highly amusing. Keep it up 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: Then there’s the comedy of populists citing data and facts, I’m not contesting the data here but just find the selective reliance of the same highly amusing. Mungler got some data from a recognised stat company, but Janner went on Reddit and found an 'expert' to debunk the company as far right propagandists. THATS comedy gold right there 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 1 minute ago, Rewulf said: Mungler got some data from a recognised stat company, but Janner went on Reddit and found an 'expert' to debunk the company as far right propagandists. THATS comedy gold right there 😄 That did make me chuckle 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 The bottom line is we don’t need nor do we need to accept the mass immigration globalist Ponzi scheme. We can look to other countries with restrictive / exacting immigration policies and who are doing well and ask what it is that they are doing that we are not? Problem is, those are hard questions with even harder answers - we just don’t have the guts for it in this country. Laziness, malaise, defeatist attitude and left / socialist indoctrination. I love the Eastern Europeans - they remind me of times past; a pragmatic hardness that we as a nation appear to have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 10 minutes ago, Mungler said: I love the Eastern Europeans - they remind me of times past; a pragmatic hardness that we as a nation appear to have lost. Years under the communist jackboot created that ethic, 'hard times create strong men' ect.. I think our hard times are coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Mungler said: The bottom line is we don’t need nor do we need to accept the mass immigration globalist Ponzi scheme. We can look to other countries with restrictive / exacting immigration policies and who are doing well and ask what it is that they are doing that we are not? Problem is, those are hard questions with even harder answers - we just don’t have the guts for it in this country. Laziness, malaise, defeatist attitude and left / socialist indoctrination. I love the Eastern Europeans - they remind me of times past; a pragmatic hardness that we as a nation appear to have lost. The ponzi scheme is relying on a model of economic growth that requires an ever increasing population base to drive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 9 hours ago, janner said: J Goebbals B 1897 D 1945 Any relation to Josef Gőbbels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 amateur - harsh, but fair. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 14 hours ago, Mungler said: The bottom line is we don’t need nor do we need to accept the mass immigration globalist Ponzi scheme. We can look to other countries with restrictive / exacting immigration policies and who are doing well and ask what it is that they are doing that we are not? Problem is, those are hard questions with even harder answers - we just don’t have the guts for it in this country. Laziness, malaise, defeatist attitude and left / socialist indoctrination. I love the Eastern Europeans - they remind me of times past; a pragmatic hardness that we as a nation appear to have lost. Agree absolutely. Our politicos have less spine than amoeba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 (edited) 22 hours ago, Rewulf said: Is that why Poland is fine taking 'white' Ukrainians, but not the err.. other type of refugee ? Is data from Statista reliable? : r/PhD Reddit · r/PhD 20+ comments · 1 year ago Their data is biased, misleading and propagandist. Citing their data makes an article a joke. 8 answers · Top answer: Their infotainment graphs are notorious for cherrypicking data, and unle I see youve used a good reliable source for your 'professional statisticians' I didnt use reddit for my own,independant research but thanks for taking the time searching and then posting, did you find any other info about misleading data providers?, "The only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself". Sir Winston Churchill B 1875 D 1964 Edited August 16 by janner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 6 minutes ago, janner said: I didnt use reddit for my own,independant research Of course you didnt , its just pure coincidence that the terms used in the Reddit article, ( that was the top of the page in the google search of whether Statistica is reliable) were the ones YOU used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 Did any of you mean Paul Joseph Goebbels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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