Council tax discount..

[TOPGUN749]

There is speculation that Labour might want to end the 25% reduction in council tax for single households. Would they really do this to some of the people on low incomes of say £11500 (state pension) for example? If they did in my area a band B house worth only £130,000 costs £1780 a year full rate. (£445 extra than with 25% discount) They have already decided to remove a long standing heating allowance. Labour certainly seem to be aiming at taking from the poorest so far!

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Perhaps Two Tier Kier only wants a single term in office.   

[mossy835]

17 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Perhaps Two Tier Kier only wants a single term in office.   

 

i hope so

[TOPGUN749]

19 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Perhaps Two Tier Kier only wants a single term in office.   

But that 5 years is a long time with many hits to come! Petrol and Diesel Tax will soon be up by a substantial amount,making diesel around £8.50 a gallon probably,leading to higher inflation on all goods.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Just now, TOPGUN749 said:

But that 5 years is a long time with many hits to come! Petrol and Diesel Tax will soon be up by a substantial amount,making diesel around £8.50 a gallon probably,leading to higher inflation on all goods.

Yes, that is the Labour way.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, I have also seen this mentioned, From what I have seen it is all single people not just Pensioners, Those unemployed on Universal Credit do not pay, I am not sure low income Pensioners on Pension credit have to pay Council or get a reduction, From my understanding if your on the Minimum pension you can claim certain benefits that brings you in line with a person payed a full pension maybe even more ?? It is estimated to affect 8 million pensioners, I am sure  £300 goes a long way to pay for the winter heating bill, ??, I sometimes look back over 50 years working and think was it worth the effort to get a reasonable income when someone who never did are better off,???

Edited September 8 by oldypigeonpopper

[TOPGUN749]

2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, I have also seen this mentioned, From what I have seen it is all single people not just Pensioners, Those unemployed on Universal Credit do not pay, I am not sure low income Pensioners on Pension credit have to pay Council or get a reduction, From my understanding if your on the Minimum pension you can claim certain benefits that brings you in line with a full pension maybe even more ??

But the full pension is just £11500 a year, if getting less than about £11300 and got little savings people could qualify for pension credit which should entitle them to free council tax.It’s the ones with a small private pension of a few hundred a year extra that get no help or those who have saved a bit by not having holidays etc.On £11500 an extra £445 council tax would be substantial.

Fairer to raise everyone’s council tax by the 33.3% not just single households.

[oldypigeonpopper]

7 minutes ago, TOPGUN749 said:

But the full pension is just £11500 a year, if getting less than about £11300 and got little savings people could qualify for pension credit which should entitle them to free council tax.It’s the ones with a small private pension of a few hundred a year extra that get no help or those who have saved a bit by not having holidays etc.On £11500 an extra £445 council tax would be substantial.

Fairer to raise everyone’s council tax by the 33.3% not just single households.

Hello, I am not disputing the pension amount but those who maybe put by a bit extra over many years to supplement the Goverment pension loose out any benefits , On lots of TV reports many many pensioners stated I do not qualify because i am £5/£10 over the threshold, ??, The loss of the £300 heating allowance will leave millions of Pensioners out in the cold 

[Westley]

I was talking to a guy who has deliberately opted out early from paying into his State Pension, solely on the grounds of being able to claim Pension Credit. That then opens up other benefits, which, when totalled up, far exceed the basic State Pension. 

[TOPGUN749]

2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, I am not disputing the pension amount but those who maybe put by a bit extra over many years to supplement the Goverment pension loose out any benefits , On lots of TV reports many many pensioners stated I do not qualify because i am £5/£10 over the threshold, ??, The loss of the £300 heating allowance will leave millions of Pensioners out in the cold 

Yes exactly the majority who get £11500-£15,000 as a single pensioner. If the government decides to up their council tax by 33.3% it adds further misery.

2 minutes ago, Westley said:

I was talking to a guy who has deliberately opted out early from paying into his State Pension, solely on the grounds of being able to claim Pension Credit. That then opens up other benefits, which, when totalled up, far exceed the basic State Pension. 

That’s correct,providing he also doesn’t save much over his lifetime,if you do you’re given no extra help.

[TOPGUN749]

5 minutes ago, Westley said:

I was talking to a guy who has deliberately opted out early from paying into his State Pension, solely on the grounds of being able to claim Pension Credit. That then opens up other benefits, which, when totalled up, far exceed the basic State Pension. 

Of course your can’t opt out of the state pension or company pension if you’re employed as they take the National insurance for it anyway,and credit you if sick or unemployed.You can however opt out of taking up a private/personal pension 

[oldypigeonpopper]

12 minutes ago, TOPGUN749 said:

Yes exactly the majority who get £11500-£15,000 as a single pensioner. If the government decides to up their council tax by 33.3% it adds further misery.

Hello, I know, It will be a double whammy for millions of single pensioners , I also see many Pensioners are having to use Savings as a way to pay bills due to the high cost of living in UK, I do wonder what other cost cutting Labour will bring about in the October budget

Edited September 8 by oldypigeonpopper

[Westley]

18 minutes ago, TOPGUN749 said:

 

That’s correct,providing he also doesn’t save much over his lifetime,if you do you’re given no extra help.

Forgot to say, he was 'self employed', working offshore. He has managed to squirrel away most of his money, gold bars being one method.

[Old Boggy]

33 minutes ago, Westley said:

I was talking to a guy who has deliberately opted out early from paying into his State Pension, solely on the grounds of being able to claim Pension Credit. That then opens up other benefits, which, when totalled up, far exceed the basic State Pension. 

It also makes a nonsense of the DWP encouraging people who haven`t got sufficient NI stamps to top up by paying a lump sum, thus ensuring they get full state pension.

Had they not topped up with their own money they would have it topped by the pension credit system.

[Vince Green]

This appears to be Angela "Red" Raynor's ageist policy.

Not 'you plonker Rodney' Starmer this time.

[dessyb]

pensioners are easy targets for this gov. look at the 9mill plus that they stole from the miners pension fund 

[Westley]

42 minutes ago, Old Boggy said:

It also makes a nonsense of the DWP encouraging people who haven`t got sufficient NI stamps to top up by paying a lump sum, thus ensuring they get full state pension.

Had they not topped up with their own money they would have it topped by the pension credit system.

He was quoted over £4000 to 'top up' his pension, but he will be much better off financially by not doing that.

[armsid]

Anyone in full time education pays no council tax so if your town has 4000 houses and 2000 are occupied by students or none payers (for whatever reason) then the tax burden falls on the remaining houses to fund the council coffers. There has tp be a fair way   oh wait   there was    the poll tax where everyone contributed What would happen if all single people enrolled for a course at the local uni no more council tax

[Old Boggy]

2 hours ago, Westley said:

He was quoted over £4000 to 'top up' his pension, but he will be much better off financially by not doing that.

Exactly

[TOPGUN749]

3 hours ago, Old Boggy said:

It also makes a nonsense of the DWP encouraging people who haven`t got sufficient NI stamps to top up by paying a lump sum, thus ensuring they get full state pension.

Had they not topped up with their own money they would have it topped by the pension credit system.

Providing they had very little savings and their partner was also in the same situation,but if the partner has a better income they can’t get pension credit!

3 hours ago, Westley said:

Forgot to say, he was 'self employed', working offshore. He has managed to squirrel away most of his money, gold bars being one method.

That’s a good way to save,or antiques! Just sell one at a time when you need some funds,and profits are tax free!

[Vince Green]

8 hours ago, armsid said:

 What would happen if all single people enrolled for a course at the local uni no more council tax

That could work actually? A night school course in origami. What actually is the definition of 'full time education'?

Many students only attend a couple of lectures a week.

I absolutely bet that a lot of people claiming to be in full-time education are nothing of the sort.

[Weihrauch17]

15 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Perhaps Two Tier Kier only wants a single term in office.   

He will be lucky to see a single term, he is a total and utter Communist.

[Lloyd90]

14 hours ago, Westley said:

Forgot to say, he was 'self employed', working offshore. He has managed to squirrel away most of his money, gold bars being one method.

So he’s a tax cheat? 
 

No wonder the countries in trouble 🤣 he’s (and others like him are) hiding his wealth from his massively paid off shore job whilst pensioners are losing their heating allowance cos we can’t afford it. 

[Luckyshot]

6 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said:

So he’s a tax cheat? 
 

No wonder the countries in trouble 🤣 he’s (and others like him are) hiding his wealth from his massively paid off shore job whilst pensioners are losing their heating allowance cos we can’t afford it. 

This country can easily afford it just our government chooses to waste our money on foreigners.

[Old Boggy]

4 hours ago, Luckyshot said:

This country can easily afford it just our government chooses to waste our money on foreigners.

Is the right answer. Plus bowing to the demands of the unions as they have always done.