TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 (edited) This is from Tom Harrison in the Telegraph; "Most people will be able cite an example of a “woke” failure or wrongdoing that has nonetheless been allowed to thrive. There’s the uncontrolled legal and illegal immigration, the “two tier” policing and trans indoctrination. Teachers have displayed bias in the classroom, regulators have acted in their own self-interest. We’ve been ruled by lawyers, not the law. Extreme progressive views are infecting our society and being treated as majority opinions. People feel they cannot say what they think any more. Our elected representatives in Parliament have been undermined by unaccountable bureaucrats. To find an answer to Parliament’s inertia, we might benefit from a better understanding of our unwritten constitution. It’s not complicated, but is not generally discussed or frequently alluded to like the US written constitution. The Bill of Rights of 1689 has arguably been undermined by stealth, with crucial freedoms gradually removed. Perhaps British voters need to be reminded that our tripartite constitutional structure consists of three “estates”: the people/electorate, Parliament and the Monarchy. British history, since the Glorious Revolution of 1688 when Parliament invited William of Orange to become a constitutional monarch, has shown that it is more politically resilient than bipartite republics. It is something that evolves and we should be very proud and protective of it. Ours is a constitutional monarchy where the Monarch is the titular head but not the executive. Within Parliament the executive is drawn from the elected Commons, wielding sovereign power, with the continuity and guidance of the Lords. We all need to comprehend the essential value of free speech within Parliament and the country as a whole, whilst recognising and celebrating that tensions between the three and within Parliament itself are necessary for our country to function well. Our “unwritten constitution” evolves by relying on sound legislation from Acts of Parliament written by new and successive Parliaments, which is why we don’t need amendments to a written constitution like the US. Some believe that a written constitution is superior, but I believe that an unwritten constitution is more flexible and progresses better as long as it is not intentionally undermined. Any new legislation that places or has placed sovereign power in any hands outside Parliament is a corruption of that unwritten constitution, as it severs the relationship between the electorate and Parliament, with unelected bodies applying their own rules on the former. Yet we have seen this continually expand since 1997. Unfortunately, the malignant legislation of the Blair and Brown era gave swathes of our parliamentary sovereignty away to various unelected bodies, regulators and the EU. The failure of the recent Tory governments was to identify this legislative betrayal of the electorate and repeal it. Current calls to repeal the Human Rights Act 1998 and leave the ECHR are a small part of the problem but would allow us to severely restrict legal immigration and almost completely end illegal immigration. We now have hundreds of quangos who deal with the people in an often high-handed and untouchable fashion by citing the Acts of Parliament that created them in the first place. This approach has spilled over into the way some large corporates employ senior staff and deal with their clients, also citing “regulation” for their intransigent behaviour. The most invidious law has been the Equality Act 2010. It has given legal force and backing to a minority to impose their will and views on the majority. This, in turn, has suppressed free speech across society. Terms like “hate speech”, “transphobia” and “Islamophobia” have effectively obstructed any dissent. This act has encouraged “victimhood” and tells young people to “submit to” rather than “deal with” their problems. Other examples of malignant legislation are the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, which gave power to the FSA/FCA to wreak enormous damage on our capital markets. There’s our extradition arrangement with the US, the Supreme Court, Devolution. When socialists get a parliamentary majority, they curtail hard-won freedoms by undermining our unwritten constitution, permanently degrading and removing its effect. With the recent Labour “landslip” we can expect this process to continue. The Chancellor has implicitly admitted the OBR will dictate what can and cannot be spent and will no doubt be blamed for the inevitable failure of this Chancellor’s template approach. Malignant legislation needs to be repealed to get our country fit for the future by returning all power to the elected Parliament. A Reform majority government in 2029 would have the courage to undertake these enormous tasks and restore domestic sovereignty." Edited September 17 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 Hello, Good post TT, but i can see this new Labour Government being even worse than Blair and Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 34 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Good post TT, but i can see this new Labour Government being even worse than Blair and Brown Indeed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 That's someone that needs help with his inadequacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 22% to the junior doctors..(2 year deal) and after the 2 year deal they will go for another 22% ............... and we will pay for it ..and it will make NO DIFFERENCE to productivity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 17 Author Report Share Posted September 17 23 minutes ago, oowee said: That's someone that needs help with his inadequacy. Because he challengers your BELOVED Leader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 13 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Because he challengers your BELOVED Leader? ? A change for the better (at least for now) but no leader of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 17 Author Report Share Posted September 17 Just now, oowee said: ? A change for the better (at least for now) but no leader of mine. You positively project him as the saviour of the country................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Any new legislation that places or has placed sovereign power in any hands outside Parliament is a corruption of that unwritten constitution, as it severs the relationship between the electorate and Parliament, with unelected bodies applying their own rules on the former. Yet we have seen this continually expand since 1997. But is this not also what Boris Johnson did when he sought to suspend Parliament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: You positively project him as the saviour of the country................................................ I doubt very much he can save us. The country is living off the excess of yesteryear consuming a lifestyle it cannot afford with a sense of entitlement that cannot be delivered. Benefits are too high, services have to be limited. That said they have a plan for change which is way beyond the thinking that has gone before. They are starting on delivering that change which is refreshing. Fingers crossed but I won't hold my breath like all politicians they struggle to say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 Don't forget that our PM has promised "change,,,, but expect it to get worse before it gets better". He forgets to say how long this worse spell is going to last 🤔😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 4 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: You positively project him as the saviour of the country................................................ The veil has been lifted though, hasn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 4 hours ago, JKD said: Don't forget that our PM has promised "change,,,, but expect it to get worse before it gets better". He forgets to say how long this worse spell is going to last 🤔😕 He also doesn't say what "better" is going to look like if and when it arrives. I'm not at all sure that his idea of 'better" would be the same as mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 Just now, Vince Green said: He also doesn't say what "better" is going to look like if and when it arrives. I'm not at all sure that his idea of 'better" would be the same as mine. I'm not going to be holding my breath for these 'better times ahead' 🙄 Things are only going to get worse and worse and,,,,,,,,,,, 😠🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 13 hours ago, Vince Green said: He also doesn't say what "better" is going to look like if and when it arrives. I'm not at all sure that his idea of 'better" would be the same as mine. 2TK's idea of better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 22 hours ago, oowee said: I doubt very much he can save us. The country is living off the excess of yesteryear consuming a lifestyle it cannot afford with a sense of entitlement that cannot be delivered. Benefits are too high, services have to be limited. That said they have a plan for change which is way beyond the thinking that has gone before. They are starting on delivering that change which is refreshing. Fingers crossed but I won't hold my breath like all politicians they struggle to say no. Would be a start maybe to stop all payouts to non contributors? Oh, but he can't because he started it all off? Then start on the idle and feckless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 57 minutes ago, old man said: Would be a start maybe to stop all payouts to non contributors? Oh, but he can't because he started it all off? Then start on the idle and feckless? Start at the top. Capping pensions would make the biggest saving. Is that what you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, oowee said: Start at the top. Capping pensions would make the biggest saving. Is that what you mean? Cheeky. Nope and you know it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 9 minutes ago, old man said: Cheeky. Nope and you know it? 😁 out in the sun 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, oowee said: 😁 out in the sun 🙂 Good for you, enjoy whilst you are able.🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 On 17/09/2024 at 15:15, oowee said: The country is living off the excess of yesteryear consuming a lifestyle it cannot afford with a sense of entitlement that cannot be delivered. I don't believe your average British worker or pensioner is entitled in the slightest. Most work full time, go home in the evening or on weekends and look after their children, cook dinner, tidy up and fall in to bed tired, ready to do it all again the next day, all so they can pay for a massively overpriced roof over their head they'll pay off just in time to live out the last year's of their life in a very moderate manner. If that is entitled or expecting too much, peharps we'd be better off binning capitalism and going back to being hunter gathers, it would certainly affect the very rich far more than the average Brit. I see veery little any average person could cut back on or call an excess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 50 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I don't believe your average British worker or pensioner is entitled in the slightest. Most work full time, go home in the evening or on weekends and look after their children, cook dinner, tidy up and fall in to bed tired, ready to do it all again the next day, all so they can pay for a massively overpriced roof over their head they'll pay off just in time to live out the last year's of their life in a very moderate manner. If that is entitled or expecting too much, peharps we'd be better off binning capitalism and going back to being hunter gathers, it would certainly affect the very rich far more than the average Brit. I see veery little any average person could cut back on or call an excess. I agree completely. Far from excessive but..... we cannot afford to maintain it. Own house, own car, free health care, free education, independent army, navy, airforce, road infrastructure, prison service, legal service, subsidised heating, subsidised rail, subsidised roads, subsidised care service, paid for with increasing debt we can barely service and then we vote for Brexit. Something has to give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 51 minutes ago, oowee said: I agree completely. Far from excessive but..... we cannot afford to maintain it. Own house, own car, free health care, free education, independent army, navy, airforce, road infrastructure, prison service, legal service, subsidised heating, subsidised rail, subsidised roads, subsidised care service, paid for with increasing debt we can barely service and then we vote for Brexit. Something has to give. So what's the answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, oowee said: I agree completely. Far from excessive but..... we cannot afford to maintain it. Own house, own car, free health care, free education, independent army, navy, airforce, road infrastructure, prison service, legal service, subsidised heating, subsidised rail, subsidised roads, subsidised care service, paid for with increasing debt we can barely service and then we vote for Brexit. Something has to give. Well, at least we saved on not paying as much to Brussels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 (edited) It’s simple mathematics. Too many economically inactive not putting enough in and at the same time too many taking too much out. Labour loves big government and big state with that we get more cost and the inefficiency of the state - there’s a slow realisation that it’s not money the NHS needs (its a big bucket full of holes) but nothing changes. The free NHS eats money and our taxes and isn’t free. If you removed the cost of the NHS from the average tax payer’s tax bill there would be enough for Bupa instead and a short holiday. Everyone has forgotten that there’s no such thing as free, and Covid brainwashed a generation; all the times I heard ‘the government should pay for that’ by nitwits who fail to appreciate that the government has no money of its own. And here’s the government expenditure spaff chart, I mean pie chart. . 41 minutes ago, amateur said: Well, at least we saved on not paying as much to Brussels Here here Edited September 18 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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