How much longer does Hezbollah have?

[Loki]

2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

I certainly do, but with the backing of Iran continuing the saga will never end.

 

Edited September 27 by Loki

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, Not long I hope !!!!! , I watched again last night the tragic event that happen at the Music Festival , Is it no wonder Israel wanted revenge

Edited September 27 by oldypigeonpopper

[oowee]

10 minutes ago, Flashman said:

Sorting out Iran is the only long-term solution. 
Any talk about doing a deal with the Palestinians ignores the small matter that every “party” in power there proudly announces that is main aim is to crush Israel and force all Jews out. 
There are no moderates speaking up because Iran funds the extremists, who in turn kill everybody who opposes them. 

Iran, Rusia, China and N Korea all part of the problem. All trying to undermine the West. 

We need a strong policy for both and fragmented short term Democracy struggles to deliver it. 

[Flashman]

5 minutes ago, Loki said:

Supporting the Freedom Fighter/overwhelmed Underdog?

Maybe we the West should reign in Isreal,

Let me guess, you’re a Corbynista?

Supporting Hamas rapists & baby murderers isn’t a solution to anything. 

2 minutes ago, oowee said:

Iran, Rusia, China and N Korea all part of the problem. All trying to undermine the West.  

Whilst this thread’s about Israel - and Iran is their local problem - China is the real threat to the West. The rest don’t have the scale to threaten the West, whereas China does and is doing so. 
China is also propping up both Russia and N. Korea, so targeting China also removes them. 

[Newbie to this]

19 minutes ago, Flashman said:

Let me guess, you’re a Corbynista?

Supporting Hamas rapists & baby murderers isn’t a solution to anything. 

But que the 'I'm not antisemitic, just anti-zionist'..........

[Gordon R]

Loki - your vague posts are bizarre and offer no realistic solution whatsoever. If you honestly believe Israel's neighbours wish to live in peace, I pity you.

Flashman and Newbie to this - on the money.

Edited September 27 by Gordon R

[toontastic]

Prior to 9/11 Hezbollah murdered more Americans than any other terrorist group, a fact which appears to have been missed by those  American students showing their support for Hezbollah. By chanting their support for these Terrorists they dishour the 241 service personnel who died in the Beruit barrack bombing aswell as the 63 people who died in the embassy bombing.

Let's also remember the British soldiers who spent days rescuing the injured and also recovering the bodies of the victims, and also the French paratroopers who died at the hands of Hezbollah.

Instead of condemning Israel Biden and Macron should be praising them for eliminating the masterminds behind these attacks.

[oowee]

1 hour ago, Gordon R said:

Loki - your vague posts are bizarre and offer no realistic solution whatsoever. If you honestly believe Israel's neighbours wish to live in peace, I pity you.

Flashman and Newbie to this - on the money.

The neighbours want to live same as Israel. If they only want to fight then the conflict has no end. Extremist Israeli's like Extremist Palestinians want to see the other dead. Peace will only come from a future that has hope and the extremists marginalised by the majority together with a shared prosperity. 

[Gordon R]

oowee- Nice sentiments, but how do you get Hezbollah to stop firing rockets? They just can't help themselves. As for Palestinians - return the hostages. They either won't or can't. If they all end up dead, there will be a heavy price to pay.

[oowee]

50 minutes ago, Gordon R said:

oowee- Nice sentiments, but how do you get Hezbollah to stop firing rockets? They just can't help themselves. As for Palestinians - return the hostages. They either won't or can't. If they all end up dead, there will be a heavy price to pay.

Its a problem for both sides.

We would have said the same about how to resolve NI troubles in the 70's and 80's. 

[Gordon R]

The Irish are way more peaceful and brighter than the Palestinians or the Lebanese / Iranians. 

Will Hezbollah ever stop firing rockets?

Will Hamas return the hostages?

If the answer is neither, I suspect they face obliteration.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Hezbollah lost their HQ overnight.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgn5xkp3rko

 

I don't see Israel stopping any time soon.

[Flashman]

Israel didn’t take the advice of the appeasers on here - the leader of Hezbollah’s headache from an IDF bomb strike ain’t going to get better…  

Edited September 28 by Flashman

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Really upping their game lately.

[ditchman]

every time i switch the TV on ...its all bloody Hezbollah and Lebanon.............am i missing something......why are the media treating this like the biggest thing since the big bang..........

It just seems like the usual old squit ....of fracas....tit for tat....that has been going on for years.....seen it all before.......why are the media treating this as something very special and world stopping ?

its not as if Isreal is going on the big middle east pacification tour.........

[TIGHTCHOKE]

 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

From the Telegraph;

"First Hamas, now Hezbollah: in a matter of months, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has decapitated the two most powerful terrorist organisations in the world.

Rather than rejoice, however, the West has offered at best lukewarm support, at worst ostracism and obstruction.

Yet Israel’s ingenious military response shows that it has lost none of its capacity to astonish the world, just as it did in 1948, in 1967 and ever since.

Once again, and with remarkable panache, Israel has transformed defeat into victory. On Friday, it scored perhaps its most stunning victory so far. Hezbollah has confirmed that its leader, Hassan Nasrallah, perished in the rubble of his headquarters in Beirut. After three decades, he has finally paid the price for his crimes and for bringing ruin on his own country of Lebanon.

As the chief ideologist of Hezbollah (“the Party of God”), Nasrallah once said: “If they [the Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide.” His death cult, like that of Hamas, subscribes to the same eliminationist anti-Semitism as the Nazis."

[oowee]

4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

From the Telegraph;

"First Hamas, now Hezbollah: in a matter of months, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has decapitated the two most powerful terrorist organisations in the world.

Rather than rejoice, however, the West has offered at best lukewarm support, at worst ostracism and obstruction.

Yet Israel’s ingenious military response shows that it has lost none of its capacity to astonish the world, just as it did in 1948, in 1967 and ever since.

Once again, and with remarkable panache, Israel has transformed defeat into victory. On Friday, it scored perhaps its most stunning victory so far. Hezbollah has confirmed that its leader, Hassan Nasrallah, perished in the rubble of his headquarters in Beirut. After three decades, he has finally paid the price for his crimes and for bringing ruin on his own country of Lebanon.

As the chief ideologist of Hezbollah (“the Party of God”), Nasrallah once said: “If they [the Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide.” His death cult, like that of Hamas, subscribes to the same eliminationist anti-Semitism as the Nazis."

A brilliant tactical military strike for sure. Just as they did in 1948, 1967 and ever since says it all. It is simply not the answer. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Just now, oowee said:

A brilliant tactical military strike for sure. Just as they did in 1948, 1967 and ever since says it all. It is simply not the answer. 

Well it will do for now.

[sam triple]

The IDF have now taken out the top hierarchy of Hezbolah , and good on them ,Iran next ? 

[toontastic]

3 minutes ago, oowee said:

A brilliant tactical military strike for sure. Just as they did in 1948, 1967 and ever since says it all. It is simply not the answer. 

The Islamic world are intent on having no Jews or Christians on their lands. Look at how big the Islamic world has become and also look at how many Jews and Christians have been displaced.

Now tell me how do you make peace with people who don't even think you have a right to live.

[oowee]

13 minutes ago, toontastic said:

The Islamic world are intent on having no Jews or Christians on their lands. Look at how big the Islamic world has become and also look at how many Jews and Christians have been displaced.

Now tell me how do you make peace with people who don't even think you have a right to live.

This is true of Islamic fundamentalists. Many fundamentalist Jews believe the opposite. Two completely opposing views neither of which can achieve it's ideal. 

The general populations of both sides want to live in peace. The general population pay the price of the fundamentalists zeal. Sooner or later the majority will prevail. How do you make that happen? I don't know someone like Blair? Pressure from outside. We need to win back Iran. 

Other seemingly intractable conflicts have been resolved. 

 

 

 

[Newbie to this]

Go on, explain how Blair is the answer 

[Bigbob]

58 minutes ago, ditchman said:

every time i switch the TV on ...its all bloody Hezbollah and Lebanon.............am i missing something......why are the media treating this like the biggest thing since the big bang..........

It just seems like the usual old squit ....of fracas....tit for tat....that has been going on for years.....seen it all before.......why are the media treating this as something very special and world stopping ?

its not as if Isreal is going on the big middle east pacification tour.........

Its too take your mind off kier Stammer 

[Gordon R]

oowee - just how do you see this happening? I see countries condemning Israel, whilst never mentioning the hostages. Why is that?

Just who is going to supply a brain to Hamas and Hezbollah, so that they can see what any sane person can see? They are dragging their countries back to the dark ages.