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The gun shop in Wisbech would have been Andy Cochrane's (J.A.Cochrane) on the North Brink and for a the last few years on the Old Market. Andy is long gone - he was a WWII veteran. A remarkable man who designed and built, among other things, an early trimaran, a unique .22 target pistol, and a fibre-glass sneak-boat. The latter was built in some numbers.The craic in the shop one Saturday among the customers was that good one of us brought a tray of drinks from the pub a couple of doors away.

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4 hours ago, London Best said:

Exactly. Nobody shoots Tigers with a shotgun any more.😁

Aha! Now here's my tale. Which is true. One of my late father's friends was a man called "Tiger" Chapman as he had indeed shot a tiger whilst in India. In close cover. In the 1970s I was a lad of early teens and had read the Corbett books. So I asked Mr Chapman what he had used. He told me he'd used a side by side 12 bore. Now I'd all sorts of thoughts of SG, Special SG, slug, the "Colindian" bullet or the Fauneta or even Eley's "lethal ball". So my next question was what had he used? The reply was "Number 6 as it holds together remarkably well at close range". Which actually is true as you have almost a dinner plate sized swarm of pellets that is far more destructive than the same size diameter pattern of six LG pellets.

3 hours ago, Pushandpull said:

The gun shop in Wisbech would have been Andy Cochrane's (J.A.Cochrane) .... on the Old Market. 

Thank you. Yes the Old Market as there was a parking site across the road which I guess was the site of the market? I bought two boxes of Hull Cartridge AAA there. Long before covid. The ones in the 2 1/2" case with the clear, disintegrating, plastic overshot wad. I think that a disintegrating wad superior to Eley's traditional thick card overshot wad. But that may be all in the mind!

Is the shop still there? A visit there and a full breakfast at Guyhirn at "the Orange Tree" made a trip to Holt's that much more enjoyable. 

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2 hours ago, enfieldspares said:

Aha! Now here's my tale. Which is true. One of my late father's friends was a man called "Tiger" Chapman as he had indeed shot a tiger whilst in India. In close cover. In the 1970s I was a lad of early teens and had read the Corbett books. So I asked Mr Chapman what he had used. He told me he'd used a side by side 12 bore. Now I'd all sorts of thoughts of SG, Special SG, slug, the "Colindian" bullet or the Fauneta or even Eley's "lethal ball". So my next question was what had he used? The reply was "Number 6 as it holds together remarkably well at close range". Which actually is true as you have almost a dinner plate sized swarm of pellets that is far more destructive than the same size diameter pattern of six LG pellets.

Absolutely MARVELLOUS, thank you for that.   :good:

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Yes, load your own is probable the best way of getting some however if you don't have any components it may not be possible to get them. I load my own but have been loading for a few years and have all the materials. Plenty of data available just see what powder you can get and then find the other bits.

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On 22/11/2024 at 07:19, HuskyRich said:

Anyone that use SG find it almost imposssible to come by now?
Can't get it from online stores I've ordered from in the past as always out of stock, and my local shop can't get it anymore.

Thinking might have to start reloading myself.

What are you intending to shoot with sg.?  after the Lead/wildfowling ban, lead heavies for fox shooting became almost non existent.  A friend had a step son who shot a 20 bore and they couldn't find stuff like BB for love nor money.  I was asked to load a few up for them.  They supplied me with a couple of boxes of 3" x # 7  20 bore cases and 2 boxes of Winchester 12x BB's copper clad somethings which had buffering material in them.  I measured out the loads and did a swap over and then finished off with a roll turn over.  they worked very well.  They certainly knocked foxes over at 30...35 paces.  personally for fox on a drive  I favoured 36Grm of BB in left and 36Grm of #3 in RH barrel.  This was more than enough in woodland rides.  In fact Eley used to advocate #4 for fox.

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16 hours ago, Fargo said:

Just cartridges sell them

Express in stock

 

 

Says out of stock for me.

JC are the first place I always look but they have not had SG for some time.

 

 

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23 hours ago, enfieldspares said:

Aha! Now here's my tale. Which is true. One of my late father's friends was a man called "Tiger" Chapman as he had indeed shot a tiger whilst in India. In close cover. In the 1970s I was a lad of early teens and had read the Corbett books. So I asked Mr Chapman what he had used. He told me he'd used a side by side 12 bore. Now I'd all sorts of thoughts of SG, Special SG, slug, the "Colindian" bullet or the Fauneta or even Eley's "lethal ball". So my next question was what had he used? The reply was "Number 6 as it holds together remarkably well at close range". Which actually is true as you have almost a dinner plate sized swarm of pellets that is far more destructive than the same size diameter pattern of six LG pellets.

 

 

When I was testing cartridges, I think it was 3" mammoth magnums no.4 were utterly devastating with a full choke.
Ridiculously dense/tight pattern with shot thats going bloody fast and has some womp behind it.
 

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I know this may not be well received but this sort of size works well with close range boar. Local land owners with ravaged grass don't care a toss about sporting ethics etc, they just want a dead boar and big shot at 10 yards does the job easily. If it isn't an instant kill the second shot does that within seconds, far quicker than what seems to be accepted with, say deer, where body shots produce runners. 

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4 hours ago, dainty duck said:

I was given a load of cartridges from a friend that passed , there was box of 24 Seller & Bellot  Sg + 1 Lg paper cased,

he used them for crows nest .

Lord! I used S & B also. But the 1 1/4 ounce load of #7. In an open bored gun. Far better than LG and very good to on dreys. Especially if Nutkin was home that day.

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7 hours ago, harkom said:

He lives in Norfolk.....

And. ; what's that got to do with anything.?  I live in Kent but I've never shot SG at anything and I don't know of anyone else who shoots SG at anything.  Explain your comment. 

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