Ah well.

[oowee]

33 minutes ago, MirokuMK70 said:

Round us in the Midlands it's a Greenfield building free for all while brownfield sites stand derelict because it costs the house builders too much profit to build on them.

 

I have dealt with more brownfield land in the midlands (West) than most. The problem for developers is often the cost of purchase not reflecting reclamation or change of use. Industrial land with old sheds on can be used for low value storage uses which give it a value above cleared. Add that to the clearance costs and it becomes prohibitive. If the land is owned by a plc they may also have the asset value listed above market value making it hard to sell. 

We need a stronger compulsory purchase process. It's something the current government is working on. No doubt another opportunity to encourage the rich to squeal. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

1 minute ago, oowee said:

We need a stronger compulsory purchase process. It's something the current government is working on. No doubt another opportunity to encourage the rich to squeal. 

Are you really suggesting "we" go down that draconian route?   

Ordered to sell land at the behest of authority, I sincerely hope not.   

[amateur]

16 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Are you really suggesting "we" go down that draconian route?   

Ordered to sell land at the behest of authority, I sincerely hope not.   

But are you aware that civil servants have a much better (loftier) view of what is good for the general populace?

 

 

Unless, of course, compusory purchase impacts on them personally

[oowee]

50 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Are you really suggesting "we" go down that draconian route?   

Ordered to sell land at the behest of authority, I sincerely hope not.   

What route? We already have cpo powers the proposal is to change the way that they can be used. For the last 14 years we have been moaning about everything and doing nothing as a result. The country needs to move forwards. We make choices. Empty brown land or more green used. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

8 minutes ago, oowee said:

What route? We already have cpo powers the proposal is to change the way that they can be used. For the last 14 years we have been moaning about everything and doing nothing as a result. The country needs to move forwards. We make choices. Empty brown land or more green used. 

What the country needs to do with a high degree of rapidness is to stop inviting/allowing all and sundry in to get us in to this mess.

[islandgun]

Hm Its all looking a bit bleak, especially for those of us that like to eat. Death tax to get rid of family farms, cpo's to plant houses, solar panels and trees on the remainder. Looks like highly processed vegan lab grown burgers will be the staple for the next generation..😒

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by islandgun

[oowee]

10 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

What the country needs to do with a high degree of rapidness is to stop inviting/allowing all and sundry in to get us in to this mess.

Yawn. Just going over and over old narratives, more of the same old twaddle gets us nowhere. Surely we have learnt something from the last 14 years of madness? Lets get on with change. 👍

[Red696]

@Westley  as I always tell people, the lead is only dangerous at high velocity.

[Westley]

7 minutes ago, Red696 said:

@Westley  as I always tell people, the lead is only dangerous at high velocity.

How true.

[old man]

8 hours ago, Dave-G said:

I suspect its more to do with getting more voters in the wards - generating more funds to pay mayors, police commisioners, MP's etc.

Council Tax!

2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

What the country needs to do with a high degree of rapidness is to stop inviting/allowing all and sundry in to get us in to this mess.

Please stop dealing with reality, it's disconcerting.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

2 hours ago, oowee said:

Yawn. Just going over and over old narratives, more of the same old twaddle gets us nowhere. Surely we have learnt something from the last 14 years of madness? Lets get on with change. 👍

Blimey that's good coming from the anti Brexit KING.    

[amateur]

3 hours ago, oowee said:

Yawn. Just going over and over old narratives, more of the same old twaddle gets us nowhere. Surely we have learnt something from the last 14 years of madness? Lets get on with change. 👍

It's the next 4 1/2 years of madness which is rather more worrying.

[oowee]

2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Blimey that's good coming from the anti Brexit KING.    

😁  Next challenge is how to get these economically inactive working. Glad I am not in govt.

[Penelope]

18 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Are you really suggesting "we" go down that draconian route?   

Ordered to sell land at the behest of authority, I sincerely hope not.   

'tis the Stalinist socialist utopia, though.

[Bobba]

13 hours ago, oowee said:

😁  Next challenge is how to get these economically inactive working. Glad I am not in govt.

Return to the dole system of the 60’s

[Vince Green]

On 26/11/2024 at 09:12, London Best said:

The ruddy developers will not be happy until the whole country is totally covered in bricks and mortar. And then they will want to build upwards.

Not even bricks and mortar. Down here in Cornwall all they seem to be building are low budget timber framed houses. My friend, who is a Chartered Surveyor, says they are being built down to the lowest possible spec that they can get away with. That doesn't fill me with confidence for the future. 

[Mice!]

21 hours ago, MirokuMK70 said:

Round us in the Midlands it's a Greenfield building free for all while brownfield sites stand derelict because it costs the house builders too much profit to build on them.

Buckshaw village near us will have been brown field, big, no massive old BAE Munitions site that is now thousands and thousands of new houses, they must have been building for ten years or more and possibly still are, far better than building on fields and woods.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

On 27/11/2024 at 10:54, Mice! said:

Buckshaw village near us will have been brown field, big, no massive old BAE Munitions site that is now thousands and thousands of new houses, they must have been building for ten years or more and possibly still are, far better than building on fields and woods.

It is a big site and looks to be done with great consideration.  

How to do things properly, makes a pleasant change.  

[Mice!]

6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

It is a big site and looks to be done with great consideration.  

How to do things properly, makes a pleasant change.  

Parking is a big issue, designated parking possibly 2 bays per property( not good when kids start driving), no work vans allowed or they weren't, looks cramped to me, but it looks a lot better than rows of the same style squeezed in.

But a new train platform was put in, on the M61 in 5 mins, unless its rush hour, a school, possibly two, big Tesco, industrial units, so some good ideas were put in.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

6 minutes ago, Mice! said:

Parking is a big issue, designated parking possibly 2 bays per property( not good when kids start driving), no work vans allowed or they weren't, looks cramped to me, but it looks a lot better than rows of the same style squeezed in.

But a new train platform was put in, on the M61 in 5 mins, unless its rush hour, a school, possibly two, big Tesco, industrial units, so some good ideas were put in.

Cramped yes, but in a good way? I think the no works van has been tried in parts of Peterborough, it has to be done or neighbourhoods are swamped.

[Mice!]

4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Cramped yes, but in a good way? I think the no works van has been tried in parts of Peterborough, it has to be done or neighbourhoods are swamped.

The problem is just loòk how many people have vans, a transit isn't much bigger than a car, not mine at least. 

I used to walk the dog around there watching it get built, we only really pass by now or use the station and free parking. 

Not for me having no drive and a tiny garden,  but people have different requirements 👍

[TIGHTCHOKE]

46 minutes ago, Mice! said:

The problem is just loòk how many people have vans, a transit isn't much bigger than a car, not mine at least. 

I used to walk the dog around there watching it get built, we only really pass by now or use the station and free parking. 

Not for me having no drive and a tiny garden,  but people have different requirements 👍

Well the ones around here vary between the usual "Transit" type to the absolute monsters beloved of the self employed couriers that take up two parking spaces.