Here we go.

[jall25]

4 hours ago, Red carp said:

Gun shops are on their knees as it is, if license fees do go up to £400 that will be the final nail for shooting in the UK 🇬🇧 I was going to invest in a new clay gun in the new year but not now simply not worth the hassle & cost of keeping a shotgun certificate 🤮

My local gun shop is booming - and so is our shoot 

We need to keep introducing our love of our way of life to others 

[BobbyH]

10 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

I think you'll find it has been "suggested", not aware that it has been "authorised".

The Government want to get to "full recovery of costs" to the applicant.

I know it has been suggested, but I read somewhere, maybe on the clay shooting forum that it had been auth’d to £400?

1 minute ago, jall25 said:

My local gun shop is booming - and so is our shoot 

We need to keep introducing our love of our way of life to others 

100%.
Im still giving out clay lessons, and using steel cartridges, as the 21gram cartridges have very VERY little recoil too 

[derek bailey]

With in the next 3 years they will ban game shooting but what I want to no is if you have shotgun and fac for renewal at same time is it £400 for each license 

[Old farrier]

1 hour ago, derek bailey said:

With in the next 3 years they will ban game shooting but what I want to no is if you have shotgun and fac for renewal at same time is it £400 for each license 

Probably and two medical fees 🙄

although they will probably change the rules to suit their agenda 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Old farrier

[derek bailey]

They don’t want shooting to carry on and I blame a lot of it on YouTube 20 years ago most people had no idea of what went on with country sports but now they can all see the videos and when they decide they don’t like it they have a moan and all the do gooder lefties jump on the bandwagon and they come after us this price increase in license fees is just the start they’ll be no shooting fishing or hunting farmer will be chasing the pigeons rabbits rats and foxes off in there tractors 

[Bigteddy1954]

Hi folks is this true that BASC is backing the rising of the licenceing fees of £400 seen it on fieldsport channel ?.cheers teddy

[steve_b_wales]

8 minutes ago, Bigteddy1954 said:

Hi folks is this true that BASC is backing the rising of the licenceing fees of £400 seen it on fieldsport channel ?.cheers teddy

I believe so, BUT, only if the service by all police forces improves, which of course they won't.

[JKD]

Already being discussed,,,,,,,,

 

Edited, as the latest discussion is now merged with the three pages where the subject is already in full flow 🤓😆

Edited December 31, 2024 by JKD

[Bigteddy1954]

Hi Do BASC just go with the flow .Do they ever consult any thing with their members or just say ok Then consult later like the lead ban and change over to steel .cheers

[Graham M]

They are so bloody inept it's laughable. 

  

[Bigteddy1954]

Hi I think I read as well that the powers to be are pushing for every gun or rifle you have to have a individual  licence in the future .So will BASC just except that as well and just go with the flow as usual .  Cheers

[Graham M]

Another way to cut down on all of the "Arsenals" in the country 

[Scully]

4 minutes ago, Bigteddy1954 said:

Hi I think I read as well that the powers to be are pushing for every gun or rifle you have to have a individual  licence in the future .So will BASC just except that as well and just go with the flow as usual .  Cheers

Where have you got this from?
Think about it; most licensing authorities  can’t administer the system as it stands currently. What the suggestion in your post would do is at least double, treble, quadruple etc etc  the paperwork for each firearm an individual owned. Totally unworkable. 

[Dave-G]

2 minutes ago, Scully said:

Where have you got this from?
Think about it; most licensing authorities  can’t administer the system as it stands currently. What the suggestion in your post would do is at least double, treble, quadruple etc etc  the paperwork for each firearm an individual owned. Totally unworkable. 

Its a public safety issue placed unrequested onto us.

Do their protester, carnival, music venue, football crowd control safety attendances, motorway patrol, helicopters get paid for by their users?

[Conor O'Gorman]

51 minutes ago, Bigteddy1954 said:

Hi folks is this true that BASC is backing the rising of the licenceing fees of £400 seen it on fieldsport channel ?.cheers teddy

No that is not true.

What is happening is that there could be legislative proposals ahead to increase firearms licensing fees in England, Wales and Scotland - and the way this is being approached by the government is wrong - and BASC has been intervening to stop it happening in this way.

The £400 figure is speculation based on an article in The Telegraph on 17 December. This was in relation to a written ministerial statement in Parliament on the Provisional Police Grant Report (England and Wales) 2025-26 by the Home Secretary which included the following:

"Firearms licensing fees have not increased since 2015 and are now significantly less than the cost of the service provided by police forces. This funding deficit is impacting the effectiveness of police firearms licensing controls and the crucial role they play in safeguarding the public. We therefore intend to lay a statutory instrument when parliamentary time allows to increase firearms licensing fees to provide full-cost recovery for police forces, in line with our manifesto commitment. The additional revenue raised will be retained by police forces to support the important improvements needed in firearms licensing".

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements/detail/2024-12-17/hlws325

No figures are mentioned in the above statement.

On 20 December, in a letter to BASC, the Home Office outlined the government’s intention to introduce a statutory instrument to raise fees to achieve full-cost recovery for police forces, referencing the above written ministerial statement.

No figures were mentioned and there has been no stakeholder consultation, public consultation or transparency on what the rise in fees will be, which could be tabled as soon as 6 January, when parliament returns from recess.

BASC update here:

https://basc.org.uk/basc-warns-against-fee-increase-without-licensing-reform/

 

19 minutes ago, Bigteddy1954 said:

Hi I think I read as well that the powers to be are pushing for every gun or rifle you have to have a individual  licence in the future .So will BASC just except that as well and just go with the flow as usual .  Cheers

Not true. You seem to be on a mission to misinform forum members this evening. 

[scarecrow243]

if it costs that much to run the firearms office and paper work they should just let us buy our certificates from the post office again

[steve_b_wales]

We'll have a choice if this is implemented, either pay up or lose your licence/s / firearms. £400 / 5 years equates to £80 per year or £6:66 per month/£1:66 per week. I begrudge paying this, especially at the poor service that is offered, but, if I have to pay this, then I will. My firearms and the enjoyment I get using them means more to me than £1:66 a week. I realise that there may be some people who cannot afford this, or maybe decide that the little time they use their firearms does not justify the fee.

[Bigteddy1954]

Oh conor before you go saying things go look on the fieldsport channel on YouTube then call them out OK cheers

[Conor O'Gorman]

13 minutes ago, Bigteddy1954 said:

Oh conor before you go saying things go look on the fieldsport channel on YouTube then call them out OK cheers

Perhaps watch it again and in case you missed it here are my comments again:

What is happening is that there could be legislative proposals ahead to increase firearms licensing fees in England, Wales and Scotland - and the way this is being approached by the government is wrong - and BASC has been intervening to stop it happening in this way.

The £400 figure is speculation based on an article in The Telegraph on 17 December. This was in relation to a written ministerial statement in Parliament on the Provisional Police Grant Report (England and Wales) 2025-26 by the Home Secretary which included the following:

"Firearms licensing fees have not increased since 2015 and are now significantly less than the cost of the service provided by police forces. This funding deficit is impacting the effectiveness of police firearms licensing controls and the crucial role they play in safeguarding the public. We therefore intend to lay a statutory instrument when parliamentary time allows to increase firearms licensing fees to provide full-cost recovery for police forces, in line with our manifesto commitment. The additional revenue raised will be retained by police forces to support the important improvements needed in firearms licensing".

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements/detail/2024-12-17/hlws325

No figures are mentioned in the above statement.

On 20 December, in a letter to BASC, the Home Office outlined the government’s intention to introduce a statutory instrument to raise fees to achieve full-cost recovery for police forces, referencing the above written ministerial statement.

No figures were mentioned and there has been no stakeholder consultation, public consultation or transparency on what the rise in fees will be, which could be tabled as soon as 6 January, when parliament returns from recess.

BASC update here:

https://basc.org.uk/basc-warns-against-fee-increase-without-licensing-reform/

Please stop posting misinformation on this topic. You have the facts and to continue to post misinformation can only be deemed deliberate.

 

[Bigteddy1954]

On the channel the reporter said the  police minister said with the price hike of £ 400 the goverment would implement it without  consultation that's on the fieldsort channel news

Go see it if that's false info go get at the channel then .before its to late to do any thing about it .No good if they implement it. 

[Conor O'Gorman]

11 minutes ago, Bigteddy1954 said:

On the channel the reporter said the  police minister said with the price hike of £ 400 the goverment would implement it without  consultation that's on the fieldsort channel news

Go see it if that's false info go get at the channel then .before its to late to do any thing about it .No good if they implement it. 

You have got it wrong. Please read my comments above.

[Bigteddy1954]

https://youtu.be/YXbSa5UZbQc?si=X8w4CufVNYniI8t9.ok listen to the first quote of this clip before your guy from Basc come on ok 

[Conor O'Gorman]

1 minute ago, Bigteddy1954 said:

https://youtu.be/YXbSa5UZbQc?si=X8w4CufVNYniI8t9.ok listen to the first quote of this clip before your guy from Basc come on ok 

What is happening is that there could be legislative proposals ahead to increase firearms licensing fees in England, Wales and Scotland - and the way this is being approached by the government is wrong - and BASC has been intervening to stop it happening in this way.

The £400 figure is speculation based on an article in The Telegraph on 17 December. This was in relation to a written ministerial statement in Parliament on the Provisional Police Grant Report (England and Wales) 2025-26 by the Home Secretary which included the following:

"Firearms licensing fees have not increased since 2015 and are now significantly less than the cost of the service provided by police forces. This funding deficit is impacting the effectiveness of police firearms licensing controls and the crucial role they play in safeguarding the public. We therefore intend to lay a statutory instrument when parliamentary time allows to increase firearms licensing fees to provide full-cost recovery for police forces, in line with our manifesto commitment. The additional revenue raised will be retained by police forces to support the important improvements needed in firearms licensing".

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements/detail/2024-12-17/hlws325

No figures are mentioned in the above statement.

On 20 December, in a letter to BASC, the Home Office outlined the government’s intention to introduce a statutory instrument to raise fees to achieve full-cost recovery for police forces, referencing the above written ministerial statement.

No figures were mentioned and there has been no stakeholder consultation, public consultation or transparency on what the rise in fees will be, which could be tabled as soon as 6 January, when parliament returns from recess.

BASC update here:

https://basc.org.uk/basc-warns-against-fee-increase-without-licensing-reform/

 

[Bigteddy1954]

Hi even your guy on that program chris graffius acknowledge that it will happen the price will go up.

You keep on quoting the the same pieces all the the time go look at the channel.

[Krico woodcock]

1 hour ago, Scully said:

Where have you got this from?
Think about it; most licensing authorities  can’t administer the system as it stands currently. What the suggestion in your post would do is at least double, treble, quadruple etc etc  the paperwork for each firearm an individual owned. Totally unworkable. 

I'd say it most definitely could happen.. here in Ireland the firearms licencing changed in circa 2009.  Prior to  that Our guns were always licensed individually,  so first gun was €26 and every gun after that was €6, all done annually. So for example 4 guns to license would cost €44. Then they changed it,with a whole pile of not necessary paperwork to apply for a new and renewal,  at at a cost of €80 per firearm, but changed to a 3 year license.  So now it went from €44 per annum for 4 guns ×3 = €132 to the  new and more complex and far less efficient license system to cost €320 for 3 year license.. it doesn't have to make sense for the power to be to make a cluster **** of everything.  No matter where you live.