thomasbeaton Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 whats th best cartridges for pidgeon cartridges and the cheapest. looking to buy a 1000 thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 The best are not the cheapest, for sure! My personal view is you want shot size 6 or 6.5. I prefer 30 or 32g loads. I like eley HB pigeon, express special pigeon, gamebore clear pigeon - all top stuff in my book. Sometimes I pick up rio super game's which tend to be the cheapest I can find locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmsy Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 a good clay cartridge will do the job 7.5 or bigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 a good clay cartridge will do the job 7.5 or bigger 7.5`s will ***** birds at range and will pepper them with too much shot at close range IMHO. 30gm 6`s pellet count 287 and 2.03ft/lbs @ 30yds 30gm 7.5`s pellet count 421 and 1.2ft/lbs @30yds Do a search and you`ll find Gamebore Clear pigeon & others like that are highly rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmsy Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 well my friend had some gaybore clear pigeon and was shooting ****, borrowed some of my mondial 7.5 and immediately did better. i think you would be supprised what some of the top shells will do tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=49245 You've already answered your own question Edited January 15, 2008 by myuserid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 As Pin Says: "The best are not the cheapest." My favorite cartridge is the lyalvale Express Pigeon Special. I prefer the fibre wad, and at an outstanding velocity of 1375 fps there isn't a huge amount of recoil. I don't shoot at pigeons with anything less than No6 shot and a 30 gram load. I was unable to get these cartridges last time so I am using Rio Classic Game for now. Again No6 shot and 30 gram load. Quite devastating with my Beretta Silver Pigeon 2 and I have 1/2 and 3/4 chokes in the barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Embsay Your question has been asked on PW numerous times previously. The answer has never changed. With respect, 7.5s are for clays, possibly grouse, but not pigeon. The object is to kill the bird, which requires penetration, I agree with Henrys figures with regards energy delivered by the pellet. I trust that you are shooting fibre wad cartridges, as most farmers dont appreciate their land being scattered with plastic waste. Myself and friends use Eley HB Pigeon, 6.5 x 32 gms, with excellent results. If your mate cant hit pigeon with these I suggest that he returns to the clay ground for more practice, as I am convinced that the weak component in the equation is not the cartridge. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmsy Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 well webber i can assure you the clay cartridges do the job well. they are technically an english 7 which is slightly better i suppose along with tight chokes they are propper dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 i all ways use 7/12 clay shot for pigeons, and they come down well with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Emmsey http://www.basc.org.uk/content/woodpigeonpractice Please read this link. I once shot with someone who had read that 7.5s were fine for pigeon. The man was, and still is a better shot than myself. He had loads of pricked and runners. After a couple pf hours he reached his own concusion and borrowed some of my Eley HBs. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 32g of 6 fibre for me.. Wouldn't dare even try with 28g 7.5 clay loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Just to have it balanced, I've used 28g (clay) loads in a pinch and they can kill well, but you have to cut the range back (fine if its over decoys). Like webber I found more runners which you just don't seem to get with the 6/6.5's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hitman Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 You dont get any bad cartridges now , but they are all made for a particular purpose. Clay cartridges are made for clays , but will also kill pigeons over decoys .Game cartridges are best for the job , clear pigeon have been mentioned and are usually some of the cheapest. 30g no6 will do the job , and will also down high pheasants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat 1 Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 You dont get any bad cartridges now , but they are all made for a particular purpose. Clay cartridges are made for clays , but will also kill pigeons over decoys .Game cartridges are best for the job , clear pigeon have been mentioned and are usually some of the cheapest. 30g no6 will do the job , and will also down high pheasants. have been reading these posts and if you want my pennies worth,,,clay shells normally use higher antomy shot which leaves the shot harder which is needed to break a clay target. Game shells are different in that they normally use softer shot which usually kills the bird due to the massive shock inflicted not the penatration which you will get with hard shot . This is why you will get more runners using trap shells, the bird may have quite a number of pickles in its body but if none have hit a vital organ it will take longer to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmsy Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 anyway folks im merely giving my opinion on cheap shells to shoot pigeons which was what the original poster wanted. i agree that a 6 or even 5 is a better size of shot, but a 7 or 7.5 clay load will do the job and are usually cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I'll agree also that 7.5's do the job on pigeons, they are all I use if I'm shooting over decoys. But as said, the range does have to be cut a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) Ok, I accept we have hi-jacked the thread a little, the original question was for the cheapest and best cartridges. well those two words don't go together. My advice would be experiment! Find the cartridge with the velocity which suits the amount of "lead" you would expect to give a flying pigeon. If you're hitting 'em regularly, then stick with that cartridge Edited January 21, 2008 by hyflier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasbeaton Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Ok, I accept we have hi-jacked the thread a little, the original question was for the cheapest and best cartridges. well those two words don't go together. My advice would be experiment! Find the cartridge with the velocity which suits the amount of "lead" you would expect to give a flying pigeon. If you're hitting 'em regularly, then stick with that cartridge thanks for that, iv been using cartridges with jimmy ling on them in 5 32g and they seem to do the trick with every thing. thanks for all the suggestions and i aggree with hiflyer. thanks for that mate. thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Ok, I accept we have hi-jacked the thread a little, the original question was for the cheapest and best cartridges. well those two words don't go together. My advice would be experiment! Find the cartridge with the velocity which suits the amount of "lead" you would expect to give a flying pigeon. If you're hitting 'em regularly, then stick with that cartridge thanks for that, iv been using cartridges with jimmy ling on them in 5 32g and they seem to do the trick with every thing. thanks for all the suggestions and i aggree with hiflyer. thanks for that mate. thomas How the hell are Jimmy ling cartridges end up in scotland? Jimmy Ling from 'Hoxne' is a small RFD based in rural Norfolk and they are his own brand cartridges which were only sold out of his shop locally. He discontinued them three years ago- But I will say they were one hell of a good shell in 5 or 6 shot-32g. They were loaded by Gamebore for Jimmy in a gamebore clear pigeon case and then stamped up with his details. I used them for over 10 years and they were excellent- Trouble is when you use them up you won't get anymore!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 ' Have to agree with that, once used up there won't be any more. I think Thomasbeeton would be advised to try and discover the velocity of these cartridges and when he does use them up, he will be able to replace them with somthing similar. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 find out the velocity and save them, dont shoot em. may be worth something to collectors in years to come, u never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasbeaton Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 find out the velocity and save them, dont shoot em. may be worth something to collectors in years to come, u never know. my grandpa used to get them from jimy when he goes down there and his brother ray used t get them for us. why has he finished with them? thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axeman1984 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 ime no expert pigeon shooter but the last few times ive been i used "RC SIPE" 6s :blink: and they were lethal cheers fenman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Pat1 has it in nutshell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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