verminer Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I was asked last night if i would carry out slaughtering some pigs for one of my landowners i have told them i would if it is legal (which i belive it would be) i have had a debate with some friends on slaughtering your own livestock for your own consumption. i said that you can kill and butcher your own pigs as long as they are not for retail, am i right or wrong. if i am correct what would be the best way to carry it out most humanely. verminer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 i would shoot them in the fead with the hmr mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 In my opinion if you don't know what your doing leave it to someone that does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 sounds simple doesnt it!!! you said "some" pigs-- kill one and the others will soon get anoyed with you, believe me you dont want to get a little piggy annoyed. you may find out that it isnt as easy as you think, i wouldnt attempt it. without the propper equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 i shoot pigeons for a pig farmer he has a pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lee Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Most humane way is how the abbatoirs do it. Stun them then cut their throats. I personally wouldn't entertain slaughtering them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 i would shoot them in the fead with the hmr mate .............words, thankfully, fail me, however Dazza has summed it all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I was asked last night if i would carry out slaughtering some pigs for one of my landowners i have told them i would if it is legal (which i belive it would be) i have had a debate with some friends on slaughtering your own livestock for your own consumption.i said that you can kill and butcher your own pigs as long as they are not for retail, am i right or wrong. if i am correct what would be the best way to carry it out most humanely. verminer PM Gav he is a slaughterman and will tell it to you as it is. IMO dont go there, as said Pigs get highly stressed at the smell of blood, even if it were legal you would be in deep trouble if they suffered in any way. D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminer Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) thanks for advice, i didn't want to do it any way, but i have just read up on it and the law states that pigs can be slaughtered by rifle or shotgun (outside advisable). but only the residental family may consume it (not friends or employees) whereas if you kill a sheep or cow only the person doing the slaughter may eat it. Thanks all for advice Edited August 15, 2008 by verminer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 If you are insured by BASC etc, I do not think you will be covered for slaughtering livestock using firearms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 In my opinion if you don't know what your doing leave it to someone that does. As dazza says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russuk Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 i would shoot them in the fead with the hmr mate Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I dont think Id be up for doing that if asked. If it was to go wrong in anyway it would be quite distressing. If I was to do it Id use a more powerful rifle than a .17HMR. At least a .223 Minimal. Last thing you want to do is cause any distress to the animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 In my opinion if you don't know what your doing leave it to someone that does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 when i was 15 i used two kill pigs,best leave along dont want two upset them, or look out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 i am pretty certain all pigs have to go to a reg slaughter house to be slaughterd .unless they are being destroyed for a good reason .as pigs have paperwork and i think defra would be asking where have they gone. it is very strict concerning pigs . you can shoot sick injured pigs but i think you have to register it as destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 dont do it. if the guy can afford the pigs, then he can afford to have them slaughtered properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 A few years ago i shot a cow that had broken its leg in a drain . The cow was owned by the farmer whos land that i shoot on . He had called the vet in to put the cow down ,but because the beast was still on its feet the vet could not get near it to use his humane killer or the .32 pistol that he carried . The farmer called me over and the vet asked me if i was capable of shooting the beast where it stood . I can tell you that it was a pressure shot with the farmer and the vet looking over my shoulder . I shot it in the base of the neck with my .308 and killed it clean with one shot at about 50 yards . The vet still insisted in putting a round of .32 in its brain just to make sure . As to killing some pigs for meat ,not for me , i wouldnt get involved if i was you to much could go wrong and bite you in the back side . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 i am pretty certain all pigs have to go to a reg slaughter house to be slaughterd .unless they are being destroyed for a good reason .as pigs have paperwork and i think defra would be asking where have they gone. it is very strict concerning pigs .you can shoot sick injured pigs but i think you have to register it as destroyed. That would appear to be correct, a local farmer takes his pigs to a slaughter house, then brings them back and butchers them himself. I believe that they have to be stamped with a number in purple ink. I'm sure that if he could avoid the transport costs and shoot them himself he would. He has however shot sick pigs that were not for human consumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) slaughtering and dressing the pigs would be the esay part, the difficult part would be butchering the pigs after, even if you leave them a couple of days jointing a pig that has not been in a chiller for a day is like wrestling jelly. Edited August 15, 2008 by peck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I was asked last night if i would carry out slaughtering some pigs for one of my landowners i have told them i would if it is legal (which i belive it would be) i have had a debate with some friends on slaughtering your own livestock for your own consumption.i said that you can kill and butcher your own pigs as long as they are not for retail, am i right or wrong. if i am correct what would be the best way to carry it out most humanely. verminer PM Gav he is a slaughterman and will tell it to you as it is. IMO dont go there, as said Pigs get highly stressed at the smell of blood, even if it were legal you would be in deep trouble if they suffered in any way. D2D LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 My father in law has a friend who is a qualified slaughterman and butcher. If he wants an animal for the freezer he calls him up and they slaughter the animal on the farm and hang it. After a day if goes to the butcher and returns chopped up ready for the freezer. I think this is the best way. Saves the animal being transported anywhere and an expert does the deed. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 As pointed out above, pig farming (domestic or commercial) is DEFRA-regulated -I believe it's the most heavily regulated sector in livestock farming, due to the biosecurity issues that go with the pig industry. All pigs are registered animals. Killing a pig to put into the food chain is notifiable, hence the markings mentioned above. Having farmed pigs myself, they are not animals to trifle with: not only are they extremely robust, they are also very aggressive when stressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopy bunny blaster Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 i would shoot them in the fead with the hmr mate are you seriously implying shooting a pig size animal with a .17 calibre bullet is a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 i would shoot them in the fead with the hmr mate are you seriously implying shooting a pig size animal with a .17 calibre bullet is a good idea I hope your not suggesting that a .17 caliber round is not powerful enough to do significant enough damage in order to kill a pig at close range. I know for certain that a .17 caliber round is powerful enough at 50 yards to penetrate front and back of a cows skull. Not because I have shot a cow but because I have shot at cow skulls on the farm I shoot on. I would suggest you do a bit of research in to the ballistics and velocity of your average .17 caliber round. Further more to this debate, if you search the web for French slaughter house videos you'll see the .17 H.M.R in near constant close range use for the humane dispatch of horses. As for using anything more powerful than an H.M.R. , that would just be stupid. I see no problem with slaughtering a pig if the meat is not for retail. As long as it's all above board then it's all ok. Just a moral issue for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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