utectok Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 looking for a cart that is the same speed as my clay carts ( hull pro fibre ) any thoughts on this cart for game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Unless you are talking about driven pheasants in the stratosphere, I would suggest that 34gms of any cartridge is too much for "game". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Yes.. stick with the 30-32g version's in a fibre wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Yes.. stick with the 30-32g version's in a fibre wad May I also suggest that you go for 5s in preference to 6s for pheasants. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 shoot 6s always have on phesants with good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Ok interesting thoughts guys I have tried a few pigeon extreme gamebore in 5 at 34 gms are these a bit much too then? I just though that since they are the same weight the would be good for pigeons and the odd pheasant. Perhaps I'm wasting my cash and should shoot the 32 gm sterling game or similar? Any advice would be welcome. Cheers WX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushat Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I wouldn't shoot 34g unless on the highest birds. 30g 6's for me for most driven stuff, moving up to 32g 5's for anything a bit tasty. Never found the need to go to 34g - my performance drops off way before that of a 32g no 5!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 the only issue is if you have the chance of a partridge or woodcock which you may take a lot lower than pheasants. 34g or 5's may lead to you being given a dustpan to sweep the bits up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Wow cool moving pic thingy al4x! Mostly I do a bit of rough shooting and decoyed pigeons or geese so ur probably right a lighter cart would do I just thought with the longer shot string i would hit more stuff. Last time I went out decoying I hit around 37 percent of the time which seems a bit crappy. Probably better practicing though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprinter Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Using a fairly light sbs for most of my 12g shooting i fire 30g of 6's almost all of the time. The exception being 34g of 3s for high drays/ close foxes and 28g of 8s for the odd clay excursion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 34 g can come in handy sometimes if the gun next to you is being a bit greedy (taking your birds) Pop them 34g in and shoot his out in front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 hope my stand isn't next to yours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 hope my stand isn't next to yours! Why do you shoot other peoples birds ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I like a fast cartridge and for the past two season have used Hull High Pheasant, a fast clean load and the same velocity as Sterling and about the same as Pro Fibre. I use the 30g fibre wad 6's and have no trouble with high birds. I have never felt the need for larger loads for game birds with 30g being more than adequate and find that 6's do the job well, you would only need to up the size of the load if you went for a bigger shot size as pattern fails before penetration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Hull Sterling Game 34g 4 or 5's for hare. I'd say these are OTT for normal pheasant shooting. Edited November 26, 2008 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 thanks for all the advice sounds like high pheasant is the way to go at 30 gms no 6 probaly save me a few pennies to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 30g #6 is plenty! My friend got a pheasent at 10 yards with one, crikey there was nothing left of it! Not a recommended range, but a good shot all the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Was that a whole 10 yards? must have been a good shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 It was a very lucky shot, he should have left it really, messed up the meat totally, only got a small amount of breast meat off it, the rest was mangled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 30g #6 is plenty! My friend got a pheasent at 10 yards with one, crikey there was nothing left of it! Not a recommended range, but a good shot all the same! Was out with a novice to walked-up shooting two years ago. Pheasant got up from under his feet and he dropped it ,again about 10yds off. Took its head clean off, which was lucky but made hanging it different to say the least! No 6 for pigeon, no 5 for anything else. I never use more than 30grms and always fiber wads. Except on clays of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 diffrent shot size for pigeon and pheasant is that on the money for everyone? cheers w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 5's or 6's will do the job fine on pigeon and pheasant. I might be more inclined to use 5's when wandering around rough shooting as they are good all rounders and just a little bit bigger if shooting stuff going away. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushat Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 It was a very lucky shot, he should have left it really, messed up the meat totally, only got a small amount of breast meat off it, the rest was mangled. How was it a very lucky shot??? I trust he took no pleaseure form the shot and the meat was virtually totally wasted - what's the point in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 it's a case of each to their own really i quite like the hull 34g No:5 and use them when the birds a high in winter, it's also quite a quick cartridge as well with good down range energy, great for high flying crows as well, iv'e had some good clean kills out to 65 yards with them. I use a semi so they don't really give me a hard time on the old shoulder. I aquired a load of different cartridges last year and iv'e been using them up, my last batch are super game No:4 36g I think so they will get used up next time i'm out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 34 g can come in handy sometimes if the gun next to you is being a bit greedy (taking your birds) Pop them 34g in and shoot his out in front I use a 36g quite often...... Either Lylavale super game or victory whites in 35g in 6's. Early season on partridges I may swop to 7's in the same load. I always take the view a bird over my neighbours peg is a better bird than one over mine........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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