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I think the motivation might largely be to do to the perception that BASC is protecting the interests of commercial shooting over grass roots/ rough shooters by placing the marketing of excessive amounts of game, the by product of what might be argued as unsustainable shooting, above the interests of small non commercial shoots who have little problem in placing their game into the food chain. That the use of steel shot is being forced upon average small bag shooters as a result of protecting commercial shoots and their ability to justify their excesses by claiming the main reason for their existence is to supply a market for game meat is unacceptable. If large commercial shoots wish to remain in business and require to make their by product saleable then only they should be required to forgo the use of lead shot. Your own emotive argument of minefields of lead shot for poor wee partridges and your reluctance to accept that the greatest risk lies in those areas where the deposition of lead is greatest, ie commercial shoots ,hints at a reluctance to allocate blame , if blame is justified, where logic dictates it belongs. It may be argued that the driver of a lead ban is the UK’s Health and Safety Executive and outwith BASC’s control but BASC has by its insistence on calling for a voluntary move away from lead shot and its well publicised stance that lead’s toxicity makes it unsafe for its continued use inland has rendered a negotiated defence of lead shot use ,where negligible harm to the environment is a probability, impossible. All the above must be considered within the context of there being no data to support any degree of harm existing from the use of lead shot in inland non wetland environments . BASC’s stance was previously No Science No Change. If no figures can be produced to support a scientific basis for the cessation of lead shot use inland then what has changed to cause BASC to fail to support this previous stance ?

And loads of folk set them and leave the safety catch on LOL

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And then find out as we will very likely with steel shot not enough electricity capacity produced to charge all the EV’s.

Dublin played hard ball during Brexit open border freedom of movement etc, the Irish courts declared the UK an unsafe country to return migrants. So now migrants are crossing the border from NI to the ROI an EU country, too bad deal with it not the UKs problem

Graham M - A little harsh. I'm sure Conor O'Gorman would provide yet another useless link / podcast, which would answer absolutely nothing. 🙂 Having unwisely listened to the last truly amateurish podcast, I am reluctant to to suffer another ordeal.

I can imagine Conor going to work for the AA or the RAC and telling us that we should all be driving electric cars. He would then find a way of informing the media that everyone he knew wanted an electric vehicle and that anyone who didn't want one was somehow misinformed and that they really did want one even thought they didn't..... He would then inform the government that we should all be driving EV's because we all wanted them...........even those that didn't. He would then introduce a "Voluntary" 5 year phasing out period for us all to get rid of our nasty polluting petrol and diesel cars so that we could all change over to very expensive EV's because that's really what we all want............because him and his friends drive them. And when we all told him that we didn't want an EV................he would then tell us that we did because he had evidence that everyone else did. And round and round it all went............................

Fortunately they got it right on the 10 o’clock news.

I found an adult one last year with a dodgy wing , I managed to put it in a box before the dogs found it, we have a sanctuary near by and I took it to them to be patched up.

Saw this little Tawny owlet out this afternoon, hope poor soul survives. No sign of nest or any parents, im assuming it got out of its nest and only way was down, its unable to fly yet so just hope it manages to get back home.

Would you use the concrete sealer before using the levelling compound or after using the levelling compound, how exactly does concrete sealer work?

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Sightmark Wraith 4-32-50 comes with 2 ir torches and power bank and cable and extenable rail and its box and lens wipe £400 ono

How true. It is indeed all the same whether it has been shot with lead, with steel, with bismuth or whatever. People that eat game as it is a family thing or eat game as they want to try it (and have asked me for a brace of pheasant or a couple of duck really do not care if it has been shot with this, or that, or whatever save in truth that if it's been shot with steel they DO NOT want it as they fear it is a risk of broken teeth. So my experience (and can other PW members perhaps relate their interaction) are that you'll be asked these almost exact questions. "You are shooting this week can you get me a pheasant please?" "You are shooting this week can you get me a pigeon please?" NEVER is either question thus: "You are shooting this week can you get me a pheasant please but only if it is not shot with lead." "You are shooting this week can you get me a pigeon please but only if it is not shot with lead." But what I also get is this: "You are shooting this week can you get me some duck please?" "Yes I can. With pleasure. You know it will been shot with steel shot? "Oh. In that case I don't want one. Can you get me something else that's not then been shot with steel shot please?" So in my transactions the person is concerned not in the least about the supposed risks in long term of the effects of ingesting lead (as they don't know anybody that has ever died for eating lead shot game) but only worried about the immediate risk of possible expansive damage to their teeth from steel shot. That's my input to this that it is indeed ALL THE SAME and that lead shot makes no difference to those members of the public who do not shoot but are wanting to obtain game to cook and eat. Risk of possible presence of lead makes no difference. Risk of possible presence of steel does and in fact it does so by scaring them off and discouraging them. For folk associate steel pellets as being...which is in fact what they are...a dosing of small, hard, iron ball bearings mixed into their food.

Oh dear, ITV have just announced that a gun salute took place today marking a year since the coronation of -: King Charles 11 This was repeated on the ITV news at least three times. Someone’s in for a bit of ribbing either the news announcer or the autocue writer, or both !!!

Rowlocks TC. even Dunks is not old enough to be in that picture!

Doesn't look red or sore so probably pregnant. I'm not saying I'm keen but my car is packed ready and I'm not shooting till Saturday 😄😄

Paul get a reloading book ! They are not that expensive about £35 new. And you will be able to read it yourself. Or get yourself a full face impact resistant full face visor. A decent one for your needs is about £50 but wont guarantee 100% to stop a bolt smashing into your cheek. The books a better option. 👍

Ouch... it is really terrible! I was thinking that at least renewal is taking less than half a year

Bought a new RM8 a few years back Stu, still having therapy over it.......

Love to see this again on Wimbledon Common.

The gamos and bsas share a lot of the same parts and tech . Mags barrel breech block etc .. The triggers on the bsa's are much better . But the gamos are serviceable certainly for some night time rat action .I dont know about the internal valving on gamo . But shot counts seem to be pretty good so can't be too bad (not like a kral or other cheap Turkish guns that seem to waste air badly ) . Maybe find a sh ultra in plastic stock and drop the nv on that .the uninterrupted top rail is brilliant for nv mounting . Ps .I also feel .177 is best for rats ,over the bigger cals The walthers are very front heavy .even the "ultra " short ones . Makes it far from ideal when scouting with nv at the eye .

I'm with OPP, the P15 takes an awful lot of beating, ignore the mutterings of spares problems or poor build quality - it's rubbish talk. Wouldn't touch a Walther if I won one in a Christmas Cracker (been there, still sobbing) but P15's don't come up often second hand and there's a reason for that - people hang on to them.

Thats great mate thank you very much Cheers

Whilst we each have our personal views on various live quarry shooting disciplines, my experience is that it's all the same to the public, and I have never understood the motivations for people on social media publicly putting down other shooting disciplines, especially this notion that 'commercial' shooting will be the end of it all. I think greed and excess can damage shooting and that can be found in game shooting and many other places. Shooting estates have been supplying game to the market for over a century and for an insight on the current game market and opportunities in the future and how that is interlinked with public acceptance for live quarry shooting perhaps give the following podcast a listen. https://theshoothubpodcast.podbean.com/e/the-game-meat-market-dylan-williams/