Hatstand Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 bit too commercial for my liking glad we don't have anything like it over here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 God damn crazy yanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatstand Posted October 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I know what you mean, but the scale of it is staggering, 350 gun dogs, shooting 600 shells in half a day. Watching the chaps shooting pheasants in t shirts makes me glad for the UK Tweed Brigade. In America they prefer things to be as it says on the tin so I suppose it suits them to do it that way. Parts of the video reminded me of WW2 footage of Japanese Kamikazi's trying to get through the automatic AA fire from American carriers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 my main issue is they can't be driven birds so looks like simply released to shoot which doesn't do a lot for me, theres not a hint of tradition or occasion so pretty typical US set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Thank God for tweed, break barrel guns and a bit of etiquette that graces game shooting in this country. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 bit too commercial for my liking glad we don't have anything like it over here Don't be to sure. Ours might be a little more traditional but swap tweeds for T shirts and there's not a lot of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Don't be to sure. Ours might be a little more traditional but swap tweeds for T shirts and there's not a lot of difference. too true unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Thats awful.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Don't be to sure. Ours might be a little more traditional but swap tweeds for T shirts and there's not a lot of difference. By the way the birds are flushing I doubt that behind the scenes(flushing point) there are any similarities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Oh dear. I can't see anything remotely European about this farce. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 24 x 25 equals 700 shots, i would like to see the kill to shot ratio on that one, or do you think they might be taking pot shots at birds that are too high? But give them there dues they seem to be presenting a lot of high birds which would suggest they are pretty wild and not straight out of a pen, plus is it just me or do the dogs not seem a bit keen on the picking up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 (edited) 24 boxes fired by one person in an afternoon!!! I wonder what the kill ratio was cos judging by the amount of shots taken by one man at one pheasant-it cant be good. Edited October 4, 2009 by Imperfection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Don't be to sure. Ours might be a little more traditional but swap tweeds for T shirts and there's not a lot of difference. To make that comment you either have never attended a driven Game Shoot in the UK, or you haven't watched the video closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprinter Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 my main issue is they can't be driven birds so looks like simply released to shoot which doesn't do a lot for me, theres not a hint of tradition or occasion so pretty typical US set up There is nothing european about this at all. I thought i remembered something last year when i looked at this about the birds basically being thrown off a tower in the middle of the shoot i.e. no beaters etc just a trapper or two ("pull" bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang aw shoot) after a little bit of digging on the site i have this for your delight or otherwise :- " In the center of the course is a 25-foot release tower, which is hidden in the timber; all you see is trees. The pheasants begin their flight high above the ground, then have 60 yards of flying time before they get to the shooters. It is very challenging for the shooters." So basically the birds are bred, held in captivity up until shoot day, are then chucked off a tower and then live free in the wild for 60 yards until some gun crazed yank empties a semi auto at them, ye haw, can anyone now call this european pheasant hunting? I'm sorry but i have been in and around shooting and the countryside for the whole of my life. I may do some things that others may not like, but i try to do it quickly and humanely. However this just sickens and saddens me to the very core. So if you put 1 and 1 together and the antis are reading that site then think that all european shooting is done this way then it is no wonder field sports in this country are in the mess they currently are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snozzer Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Did you see those idiots with 8 shot semis taking 5 shots at one bird to down it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Oh dear. I can't see anything remotely European about this farce. webber shooting from hides, 8 shot semi autos, jeans, birds released from towers in the trees just before getting shot? why not just go clay pigeon shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Christ. If they shoot 65,000 pheasants God alone knows what the cartridge count is. As said, why not just shoot clays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 They may well shoot 65,000, but what about the 265,000 that get away (certainly judging on the great shooting efforts we saw there!!!!!). Disneyland for *** jockeys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 To make that comment you either have never attended a driven Game Shoot in the UK, or you haven't watched the video closely. Cranfield I appreciate that nothing we in this country do is in any way so American and blatantly commercialised. Autos instead of side by sides, release towers, orange hats etc . However there are plenty of UK shoots who put down way in excess of 100,000 pheasants a year and shoot similar numbers of birds to the video. You must be aware of the number of commercial shoots who offer 700 bird driven pheasant days 4 and 5 days a week, week in week out, how many cartridges do you think they fire. What about the big partridge shoots who shoot 500 to 1600 birds a day through the entire season, do you really think they release all their birds prior to the start of the season, in reality they top up by the thousands as and when required from their holding pens. I could go on but there is no need. I am no anti, far from it, it's how I make my living. However to decry the Yanks for their methods when some of ours are a somewhat British version cloaked in tradition is somewhat cynical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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