Mr_Logic Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Air rifle on fox is not the wisest idea. Yes it will work, up close and in the head with FAC, but why bother?! If I am even thinking fox it's minimum my Hornet. 22rf is as low as I will go on fox, personal choice, but ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 It's one thing doing something as stupid as shooting a fox with an air rifle. However it takes stupidity to an entirely different level talking about it in a magazine which WILL be read by people new to the sport who could well just have airguns. They will all of a sudden think it is acceptable to shoot foxes because a so called expert said so. It may be he is shooting them in a trap with an FAC rated one, however the damage is done by putting such a moronic thing in print. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 (edited) Yes a .22 air rifle can be used to kill foxes! First catch your fox , then tie it down and use the butt to club it to death. Mind you a proper rifle or shotgun is a lot simpler. Edited February 5, 2010 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySmith Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 It's one thing doing something as stupid as shooting a fox with an air rifle. However it takes stupidity to an entirely different level talking about it in a magazine which WILL be read by people new to the sport who could well just have airguns. They will all of a sudden think it is acceptable to shoot foxes because a so called expert said so. It may be he is shooting them in a trap with an FAC rated one, however the damage is done by putting such a moronic thing in print. FM My sentiments exactly,well put Ferret.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted February 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 It's one thing doing something as stupid as shooting a fox with an air rifle. However it takes stupidity to an entirely different level talking about it in a magazine which WILL be read by people new to the sport who could well just have airguns. They will all of a sudden think it is acceptable to shoot foxes because a so called expert said so. It may be he is shooting them in a trap with an FAC rated one, however the damage is done by putting such a moronic thing in print. FM That was my first thought And to come from the NGO FIREARMS CONSULTANT is unbelievable. I would like to hear how he justifies shooting a fox with a air rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 (edited) March issue sporting gun, Title of article (ironically) Foxing....Doing it large. And funnily enough it is all about getting a .270 to shoot foxes OR more to the point trying to get your firearms dept to grant a .270 for foxes Hello Blackbart Thanks for the reply. March this year? as it's only just February? Any chance you could scan it and send it to I don't want to say silly things that are wrong. Thanks Bill Edited February 6, 2010 by Axe REMOVE EMAIL ADDRESS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 9R Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 (edited) they always publish a month in advance. sad that a so called expert and mag that is supposed to know about the subject could write and print such an comment. Edited February 5, 2010 by Red 9R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Hello Blackbart Thanks for the reply. March this year? as it's only just February? Any chance you could scan it and send it to I don't want to say silly things that are wrong. Thanks Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Hope they come out ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) Fact of the mater might be that a pellet from an air rifle would or could kill a fox either by reducing its hunting potential or by causing infection or both, but starvation or sepsis. Horrible ways to die, long lingering and painful..... Oh and the RSPCA would be down on you like a ton of bricks. The phrase 'full extent of the law' springs to mind. Edited February 6, 2010 by alexr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) Well mr Wallace, all I can say is, you are a moron for putting something like that to national press. I hope you are a member of this forum and I hope you have an explanation for your ridiculous comment. Thanks for feeding 'newbies' bad information, I just hope no-one takes it as advice and doesn't do as this 'professional' does. Calling all air rifle shooters, don't shoot foxes with your .22 or .177, it will do more harm than good - FACT!! Edited February 6, 2010 by SSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) Well mr Wallace, all I can say is, you are a moron for putting something like that to national press.I hope you are a member of this forum and I hope you have an explanation for your ridiculous comment. Thanks for feeding 'newbies' bad information, I just hope no-one takes it as advice and doesn't do as this 'professional' does. Calling all air rifle shooters, don't shoot foxes with your .22 or .177, it will do more harm than good - FACT!! Edited February 6, 2010 by alexr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 There's gonna be a fuss and he'll probably "clarify" that he actually shot the foxes with an FAC .22 air rifle of some description. Obviously if he doesn't have FAC air actually on his ticket then no doubt he will elaborate that it was with a mate who does [etc blah blah etc]. Mind you, you have to question why he went anywhere near the thorny issue of airguns and foxes in a national shooting mag. Now that's just daft. Indeed, if you look at the text, the context and the purpose of the article it doesn't actually add anything. Staying schtum and losing 2 lines of text would have seemed like the more sensible option altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Hope they come out ok came Thanks Blackbart, the scan of the article out well. What a plonker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertJ Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I have used a 12ft lbs .177s with no probs at about 20 yards with carefully placed headshots maybe 30 years ago before I had powder rifles. Legally yes you can, morally no you certainly should not. Even a 12 bore needs to be close or be suitably loaded with BBs or similar. Centerfire fire is by far the most humane and cleanest way. A I agree - why would you want to use the minimally effective weapon when you could and should use the optimal weapon to ensure a clean kill and the minimum of suffering to the animal? Of course an air rifle COULD kill a fox or indeed a person but it is MORE LIKELY simply to injure both. I have seen good experienced shots take two or more shots with a shotgun to kill a fox. AlbertJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsm1968 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 This guy is failing the shooting community. Clearly he hasn't a &*^%"*&% clue. I should like to chat to him about ethics and balistics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) so i am new to the sport...i have a bsa lightning xl tac....would pellets would i use to take out a fox then??? :wacko: There's quite a quick and simple answer to this question - YOU DON'T USE A SUB 12FT/LB AIR RIFLE TO SHOOT FOX If any "newbies are reading through this thread all I can say is "PLease do not even think about taking a fox with an air rifle, no matter what the magazine article says a sub 12 foot pound air rifle is not designed to kill foxes humanely and if you do try and get found out you are likely to find your self in deep trouble"![/ Edited February 6, 2010 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 In the ear is a better idea less bone It wouldn't hear you either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Its good to see that the majority of responses condemn the use of an air rifle to shoot a fox. I think the article has achieved what it intended, got people talking about Sporting Gun Magazine, The NGO and its "Firearms Consultant" Mr G Wallace. Unfortunately, I doubt its done the NGO or Mr G Wallace a lot of good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I'd say you would need a serious air gun like this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I'd say you would need a serious air gun like this! Yep, that should do the trick! :blink: I wonder if that's the air gun that Mr. Wallace was refering to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I was told that there was a legal minimum weight of 40 grains for shooting fox. ***, we'll have every tom **** and harry out there wounding foxes with pea shooters next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I have an AA 410 classic .177,and would never consider shooting a fox/deer/geese or anything that is not legal quarry for an air rifle.the shot gun i bought off my uncle baikal o/u 12g has shot a multitude of fox. Don't worry about the air gun shooters,they know the law,check out aaoc(airarmsownersclub)cant think any of them would consider shooting a fox with an air rifle,am surprised this article was allowed to print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christy Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I have used a 12ft lbs .177s with no probs at about 20 yards with carefully placed headshots maybe 30 years ago before I had powder rifles. Legally yes you can, morally no you certainly should not. Even a 12 bore needs to be close or be suitably loaded with BBs or similar. Centerfire fire is by far the most humane and cleanest way. A I have an Airwolf .22 and would have no qualms whatsoever, bowling Reynard completely senseless at 25 yards. Straight between the eyes-check that. Mess with my three chickens and I will end your life, fact jack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 yep. i regulry shoot foces with my gas powerd bb gun, kill them sotne dead at 1500 yard with a wee bit o holdover. ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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