Are you British ?.......

[clutey]

A man of many words.. British

[bullet boy]

Welsh born-New Zealand Blood!

[MPT1]

Mixed up blood.

 

First a Londoner second English third British.

 

Pepe, my daughter is a chicherrara.

[gixer1]

Born in Germany (BMH) mother is Irish, Father is english, lived in Scotland most of my life so i class myself as Celtic....

[Zapp]

Some off-topic posts have been removed, please keep the thread on topic. If you wish to discuss something else then simply start a new thread .

 

ZB

[Beardo]

Some off-topic posts have been removed, please keep the thread on topic. If you wish to discuss something else then simply start a new thread .

 

ZB

 

you'll regret that

[Aled]

No surprise, with a name like Aled, i'm as Welsh as you will find.

Cymru am Byth. Lived in England for 5 years, so i have done some time abroad!

As we're on the subject those of you who say you "cant call myself English its not PC" listen to a song called Roots by a band called Show of Hands. Vey enlightening.

Tight Lines

Aled

[tbox]

One grandparent English, one Scots, one Welsh and one Manx... Gawwd knows what that makes me.... other than very unlikely to get a sun-tan! That said I was born in England and always think of myself as English-British.

[yates]

Yorkie first and foremost, second English and then British

[Beretta28g]

My fathers parents were both Italian ,but my father was born in london . My mothers father was an ulsterman who had strong family ties with Scotland . My mothers mother was a Jock . So am I the only Irish Italian Jock on the forum ?. I am a realist and a patriot of this wonderful country that we live in and am glad to call myself British . Allbeit I am norfolk bred and born . And yes I do have an Italian surname .

 

Harnser .

 

Well, perhaps, i was born in norfolk.

Mums dad was italian born and bread and became a POW over here and stayed

Mums mum was irish from cork and her father was a member of a active IRA cell aparently(?)

Dads mum is norfolk through and through from bawbrugh

Dads dad is from scotland on the west coast.

 

I dont have an italian surname but my middle name is italian.

So although i am english norfolker, my ancestery is mixed.

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[ab1964]

It wasn't one of the choices, but,...

 

I'm a Yank - living in the UK with a FAC & SGC.

[Vipa]

I like to think of myself as English but with grandparents on my Mum's side from Scotland and on my Dad's side from Ireland I suppose I am more British than anything else. Interesting bit of geneology my mum turned up is that on her side my grandad's decendants were Scottish, McCutcheons but my Grandma was an Armstrong who decended from the Border Reavers!!!!

 

Bet you wish you hadn't asked now

Edited May 17, 2010 by Vipa

[Bigweed]

SCOT - Thoroughbred

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[juby trap]

an englishman and a northener and proud of it

[MJN]

Yes I am.

[lewis]

Scottish

[MC]

SCOT - Thoroughbred

 

 

Never mind, I suppose someone has to be.

 

We won't hold it against you.

[Bigweed]

Never mind, I suppose someone has to be.

 

We won't hold it against you.

[Harnser]

I like to think of myself as English but with grandparents on my Mum's side from Scotland and on my Dad's side from Ireland I suppose I am more British than anything else. Interesting bit of geneology my mum turned up is that on her side my grandad's decendants were Scottish, McCutcheons but my Grandma was an Armstrong who decended from the Border Reavers!!!!

 

Bet you wish you hadn't asked now

 

 

Viper , that is weird . My mother is an Armstrong , as her father came from the Armstrong clan . As you are proberbly aware the Armstrongs were banised from scotland and went to Ulster to escape being imprisoned and murdered because of their links with the lowland scots and their warlike actions against the highlanders . They were a band of brigands and mercenarys who hired them selves out to who ever could pay them , including the English .

 

Have I found a long lost relative ? Harnser .

[Ozzy Fudd]

funny i have relatives here who are called armstrong

[Harnser]

funny i have relatives here who are called armstrong

 

 

Oh my god , this could be the beginning of a gathering of the Armstrong clan . Any more of you out there .

 

Harnser .

[Vipa]

Viper , that is weird . My mother is an Armstrong , as her father came from the Armstrong clan . As you are proberbly aware the Armstrongs were banised from scotland and went to Ulster to escape being imprisoned and murdered because of their links with the lowland scots and their warlike actions against the highlanders . They were a band of brigands and mercenarys who hired them selves out to who ever could pay them , including the English .

 

Have I found a long lost relative ? Harnser .

 

Very probably.

 

The Reivers were located (as you would imagine) on the borders and came under neither Scottish or English law as it stood at that time. They were lawless in real terms and in the way they lived their lives! As well as being muscle for hire they spent most of their spare time raping and pillaging but their forte was cattle rustling. They were vicious and from my (our decendants) came the term to be bereaved as once they had paid your quiet little village a visit, stolen the cattle, raped the women and killed all the men you were known to have 'been Reived' which was later shortened to bereaved!!!

 

The Armstrongs were, amongst others, well known Reivers....

Edited May 17, 2010 by Vipa

[al4x]

funny i have relatives here who are called armstrong

 

 

So does my Brother in Law who is from Ballycastle, though most of them seem to have moved over here

[RC45]

Traced my old man's roots back to 1640's in Cheshire. Stuck at the mo with my mum's in Essex around 1840. I reckon I'm English but am I a Northerner or Southerner?

1640 Now thats good going...

 

[Vipa]

So does my Brother in Law who is from Ballycastle, though most of them seem to have moved over here

 

OK... family reunion anyone???

 

There were others but if you are, or are decended from The Grahams, the Armstrongs, the Elliots, the Routledges or The Nixons then we are very probably related...

 

In 1603 James VI of Scotland became James I of England. James immediately set about unifying the two countries.

 

The Marches and the posts of wardens were abolished. The term 'the Borders' was forbidden. The region was to be known as the Middle Shires.

 

Strong measures were pursued to enforce the law and there was, after centuries of disorder, a will to see that the law was enforced. Wanted men were hunted down and executed. All Borderers were forbidden to carry weapons and they could only own horses of a value up to 50 schillings. Deprived of their basic reiving requirements reiving activities gradually died away. Reiving families were dispossessed of their lands. Their homes were destroyed and the people scattered or deported.

 

Some clans who had been active reivers hastily abandoned their reiver connections and sought and found favour with the king and joined in the subjugation of the old reiving families, often with great enthusiasm. Many were rewarded with gifts of land, and they prospered, acquiring the lands of their former friends and allies. Their descendants are now securely entrenched with their titles and vast holdings.

 

Thus many proud and fearless families were broken up and scattered beyond their homeland. They were the Grahams, the Armstrongs, the Elliots, the Routledges, Nixons and many others.

 

Only a few remained, adopting a peaceful way of life. Others moved into England, Ireland America, and elsewhere, where their descendents live and prosper to this day.

 

John Lesley, the Bishop of Ross, wrote of the Border Reivers:

 

In time of war they were readily reduced to extreme poverty by the almost daily inroads of the enemy whence it happens they seek their substances by robberies or plunder and rapine (for they are particularly averse to the shedding of blood) nor do they much concern themselves whether it be from Scots or English that they rob. They have a persuasion that all property is common by law of nature.