ostrea Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Not sure if the link will work we do seem to have some people in the shooting community who are determined to make unneccessary news for ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tus Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 (edited) that bad http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/93689/wre...ox-corpses.aspx Edited September 29, 2010 by tus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 That's terrible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Not good but once again they are guessing how they died. Could have been an Rta for all they know. It'll be interesting to see if the vets find they haven't been shot if they give an update on the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 They want to go to the butchers shop, there are animals there that died by having their throats slit after their brains were mashed, then they were cut into little pieces after having their organs and skin removed. Disgusting I demand something is done about these depraved butchers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 fundamentally if they are blood drenched what springs to mind is someone doing urban fox control thats dumped them rather than pay to dispose of them. It happens, they're dead you'd never proove cruelty and lets face it any of us could say if they've been shot without an xray. If they were shot then unless CCTV covers the area they won't find who did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 They want to go to the butchers shop, there are animals there that died by having their throats slit after their brains were mashed, then they were cut into little pieces after having their organs and skin removed. Disgusting I demand something is done about these depraved butchers Ill second that fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 That's terrible! Thats exactly what I was thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 You know nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 fundamentally if they are blood drenched what springs to mind is someone doing urban fox control thats dumped them rather than pay to dispose of them. It happens, they're dead you'd never proove cruelty and lets face it any of us could say if they've been shot without an xray. If they were shot then unless CCTV covers the area they won't find who did it. Im guessing the "drenched in blood" was the paper using a bit of creative licence and dramatising the story.Chances are they were dumped by someone who didnt know what to do with them after shooting.Not the brightest place to stick them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Copy of a later story from the same rag. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- POWERFUL bullets which expand and splinter on contact were used to kill the three foxes whose blood-stained bodies were found on the car park of Wrexham’s Asda store on Monday morning. The vet who carried out a post mortem examination on the animals at the Leader’s instigation said he and colleagues have never in their experience seen such small animals slaughtered in this way, with such “unbelievable” damage being caused. The bullets smashed the spines of two of the foxes and ripped their bodies apart. And he fears for public safety if the animals were killed on the car park by someone using such ammunition in a high-powered rifle. As the Leader revealed on Tuesday the bodies were discovered by shocked Asda staff dumped in the recycling area between 8.30am and 9am on Monday. The Leader was alerted to the scene by a shopper who said she was “sickened” after making the grisly discovery. The bodies were taken away by Wrexham Council which, through the Leader, arranged for them to be examined by veterinary surgeon Denis Callanan of Borras Park Vets in Wrexham. After carrying out the post mortem, he said: “There was one adult male with a male and a female both under a year old. “The x-rays we did showed they had all been shot by soft-nosed bullets - sometimes known as dum dums - which was quite a surprise. “These bullets are primarily intended for killing large animals like deer, or vermin. My colleagues and I have never seen them used to kill foxes before. “There was unbelievable damage. The spines of two of the foxes had been completely smashed and there were large areas of tissue damage. “They were obviously killed very quickly. “However, the big puzzle is whether they were shot elsewhere and then dumped at Asda, or actually shot where they were found. “If they were shot on the car park I would have thought the police would be interested in what someone with such a powerful weapon was doing there.” The use of dum dum bullets has been banned in warfare by international convention for some years. But they were used by police officers in the controversial killing of Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes on the London underground in 2005 in the mistaken belief he was a terrorist. A spokesman for North Wales Police said: “We haven’t had any reports regarding this matter. “If anyone has information as to why these animals were shot and dumped in this way please contact PC Eryl Lloyd on 101.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 (edited) These bullets are primarily intended for killing large animals like deer, or vermin. Am i the only one to laugh at this Edited September 29, 2010 by magman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 what a sensationalist piece of nonsense. some bloody idiot pest controller has just dumped them there to save on paying for their disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Unbelievably, I saw a blood-drenched fox which was right next to a footpath. I should have reported it to the police... ..then I realised it had been hit by a car. These newspapers will dramatise anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Sounds like the guy got the foxes with a tank Seems strange that the vet had to actually carry out a post mortem when it seems pretty obvious that they had been shot. The whole story is a load of exaggerated **** ATB...im off to the shops to see if I can find any cheap meat chucked out to the bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Thats exactly what I was thinking! I couldn't agree more, it's simply outrageous, I'll be in touch with my MP first thing tomorrow. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I've contacted The Sun and told them it was a revenge killing after that fox attacked a baby. I knew these foxes to be in the UK illegally and were working in the sex trafficking trade. I also now for a fact that they had weapons of mass destruction due to the fact that one of them was seen near a train wearing a puffa jacket. Also after shooting one of them I removed what looked to the untrained eye like a flea, on closer inspection I found it to be a robot flea from Krypton sent here with a green rock to kill Superman, I could tell it was a robot flee cos I could crush it between my thumb and fore finger and it could leap very high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I have a theory that these deaths resulted from some sort of bizarre "threesome" sex game where they jumped into bin bags and it all went horribly wrong and they suffocated..?? Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 ****-takes aside, the two issues here are both daft: 1. Don't dump bloody foxes at bloody Asda! 2. That rag is the worst paper I've ever seen, and the vet in question knows nothing. Not being funny - these things, if hit with a centrefire have a bloody great hole in them, cause of death is not especially difficult! And also, you can't tell from an X-ray what bullet was used UNLESS the bullet was in the fox. in which case it's a not a bloody mess, just a dead fox. So which is it? Am very annoyed as there is no email address to file a complaint, like I did when the Sun published sensationalist nonsense about deer hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 (edited) what a sensationalist piece of nonsense. some bloody idiot pest controller has just dumped them there to save on paying for their disposal. My thoughts exactly. Same as they leave them in the gutter on a busy main road hoping they will be mistaken for road kill. All to save a few quid. Edited September 30, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 so I guess they won't be pressing for a cruelty charge then B) its sensationalist reporting and really most of us that go fox shooting have dumped foxes usually under hedges though where they rot fast. I have had them pulled out by either other foxes badgers or possibly dogs before. Fortunately my landowner just says saw one of your foxes the other day so i ploughed it in much the same as if he has a half ploughed field we have a little arrangement where I leave them in the next furrow so they get burried when he starts the next day. In this case why oh why didn't they just put them in the bin and cover them and no one would be the wiser, p.s anyone know if its legal to put them in your green recycling bin. Ours now takes food carcasses and most waste oh and pps garyb if I find any in there I'll know where they've come from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 What a load of old tat, who's taking up the mantle of writing to the "Leader"? And the vet in question? Having to undertake a post mortem to discover cause of death B) if I'm ever in Wrexham and one of my dogs get injured I would like to know who not to take it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishermanpaddy Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 I've contacted The Sun and told them it was a revenge killing after that fox attacked a baby.I knew these foxes to be in the UK illegally and were working in the sex trafficking trade. I also now for a fact that they had weapons of mass destruction due to the fact that one of them was seen near a train wearing a puffa jacket. Also after shooting one of them I removed what looked to the untrained eye like a flea, on closer inspection I found it to be a robot flea from Krypton sent here with a green rock to kill Superman, I could tell it was a robot flee cos I could crush it between my thumb and fore finger and it could leap very high. You know that makes more sense that the dung that that rag prints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Did the old bill really fill that poor Brazilian fella with dum dum rounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Keeper Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 mayby they thought the foxs were dogs see link Wrexham dogs and owners are under fire for mess on pitches http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/93852/wre...on-pitches.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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