WARNING deer poachers strike

[bignoel]

while i was out to get a troublesome fox for a keeper friend of mine we spotted and counted 31 roe deer with some magnificent bucks with cracking heads i said to him if we can count this many out how many cant we see these deer are not lamp shy at all . anyway i picked his vixen off at 310 yards problem solved that night .then he rings me to say he has been heavily poached the bucks have vanished the gates smashed hedges flattend no sign of any deer .now these poachers are hardcore only 3 weeks ago in the same area roughly they were stopped by a local bobby in the back lanes on his own they got out to him and bashed him and them rammed his car off of the road and made there escape there pickup reg didnt exist .then the other night they were in a disco and left a mud flap behind them .we have been warned not to approach them if we catch them out lamping call the police make no attemps to stop or block them in as they are hardcore .so any hampshire keepers be warned they think they are from the pompy side of hampshire .

[Frenchieboy]

That is a very sad situation to have to report Noel mate!

Let's hope these ******** get caught quickly and get everything that the courts can throw at them. The problem is that even if they do get caught they will most likely get away with just a slap n the wrists and be told not to do it again - Our courts are far too leniant!

[swiss.tony]

wat a story shocking lets hope they catch them before they kill some one

[al4x]

we've got one a bit like it, we get problems while he is out of prison never seems to last long as he always beats either a keeper of policeman up. Its why you have to be very careful who you approach when they are poaching at night as some will not care what they do.

[njc110381]

If someone started ramming my truck and looked like they were going to hurt me they'd get a round in them. I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six.

[Bluebarrels]

Yes Noel its rife around these parts Had a big problem around Aldershot a few years back,one of my permissions,a golf course was really badly hit

 

Was up in Lincolnshire last week,Front of the S****horpe evening Telegraph,article on Deer poachers,seems its happening all over BB

[keeperdan]

Yeah i get it up here on the glos/oxon border.. they are taken only 1 or 2 at a time but i know they are going,,, wish we had some greater powers to do something

 

[chrispti]

Travelers

[beerdeor]

Travelers

 

Caravan Utilising Nomadic Travellers I have no doubt

atb Jim

[bignoel]

we are going to work as a group police farmers keepers on evening rounds to try locate catch them in the act for all the good it will do £60 fine i exspect

[njc110381]

Just be careful Noel. What I said above isn't the ideal situation to get yourself in but by the sound of this lot that's the only way you could save yourself from a good kicking if they did get hold of you. They sound like a really nasty bunch.

 

Take care of yourself and stay out of their way. If the police can prove it was them that did the squad car and the lone copper they're not going to get away with a £60 fine that's for sure. All they have to do is actually stop them, which sounds like it could be a challenge!

 

If they're all into this ramming lark they need a Matbro with a bale spike off the farmer. Get that 4x4 nice and high in the air until backup arrives and see how they get on with their ramming then?!

[bignoel]

we wont be hands on but as a sort of poacher watch on selected nights plotted up with radio's just to report to police who will be set up as well as keepers/farmers .this gang is best left to the police to sort out . they have a reason for a quick capture now .noel

[inthedark]

Yes Noel its rife around these parts Had a big problem around Aldershot a few years back,one of my permissions,a golf course was really badly hit

 

Was up in Lincolnshire last week,Front of the S****horpe evening Telegraph,article on Deer poachers,seems its happening all over BB

 

Priceless spellcheck! I live near Scunny and we get a fair bit of hare coursing but there aren't too many deer about so thats not a big problem. They're a pain in the butt end driving all over the fields and putting the partridge off though. While I'm on I'm going to see if my childhood town gets 'cleaned' like Scpe did - Penistone.

[Elby]

They'll be back soon enough.

Get some roof batten with nails sticking out of it and bury it in the gateways, no one carries more than one spare.

Just remember they are there when you go through.

[oneshotkiller]

Caravan Utilising Nomadic Travellers I have no doubt

atb Jim

 

I like the way you point the finger so easily

[mark@mbb]

We have had this in cheshire for the last two years travellers in 4x4,s riding around the fields in the early hours after hares and rabbits lazy b......s wont park and walk its only a matter of time before someone gets shot

 

mark

[dodeer]

Were getting a lot of trouble in Dorset now. Heads and guts left out by gateways. Police not that interested. Were goin go full throngs to catch these scum,

[Dave-G]

I like the way you point the finger so easily

 

 

Can't blame him to be fair - no one culpable to that extreme lives in bricks and mortar with roots in the area would be crass enough to risk getting caught with a vehicle bearing false plates, rifles, illegal game etc would they?

 

Now if everyone were able to up stakes and disapear when the summonses start arriving...

[Elby]

Can't blame him to be fair - no one culpable to that extreme lives in bricks and mortar with roots in the area would be crass enough to risk getting caught with a vehicle bearing false plates, rifles, illegal game etc would they?Now if everyone were able to up stakes and disapear when the summonses start arriving...

Yes

[Redgum]

We are getting it pretty bad in the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire. Deer driven into nets with dogs and butchered on the forest floor,heads legs and guts for the picnicers to see. There is a fair head of wild boar which seem to attract them as well, its been worse in the last couple of years.

The word 'Travellers' comes up so often but though sometimes this is the case a few of the problems come from over the border. Times are hard and its an age old story, the problem is the police seemed not to be able to deal with it. I know a few keepers who have called the police only to be assaulted and when the police eventually arrive there is no chance of catching them.

As a law abiding tax payer not wanting to loose ones FAC it makes you want to spit. What we need is a pack of Doberman that are as evil as hell itself and have a diet of human flesh, leash a few of them at the poachers.

[demonwolf444]

last year there were about 10-12 deer on our land , the most ive seen in years, not seen a single one this year, although did follow a trail of blood once to find a dead baby deer, found it pretty upsetting, i dont think it was shot, may have injured its self some other way, my self i dont shoot deer but they did make beautifull sceneary when i saw them trotting over the hill top, sun rising, cathedral in the far background, shame not to have seen any this year :(

[Richie10]

Being a person who shoots deer legally, all I can see from this post is that people are concerned about their own sport and fed up that other people are taking it.

Poaching has always gone on, the difference between hunting and poaching is who owns the land and how much people are willing to pay.

I do not condone violance or vandalism, but people have their own interest at heart here. A land owner owns the deer by owning the land and not by the actions they have taken.

Deer are on the rise and most of that is due to deer utilising urban situations, ban on hunting with dogs and land owners not managing the population adequately. This is because people are trying to make money off the deer, which is evident on here from the talk of 'good heads'.

The actions of a few poachers isn't going to affect the overall deer population, building of roads and habitat change have the major affect.

[mikee]

Being a person who shoots deer legally, all I can see from this post is that people are concerned about their own sport and fed up that other people are taking it.

Poaching has always gone on, the difference between hunting and poaching is who owns the land and how much people are willing to pay.

I do not condone violance or vandalism, but people have their own interest at heart here. A land owner owns the deer by owning the land and not by the actions they have taken.

Deer are on the rise and most of that is due to deer utilising urban situations, ban on hunting with dogs and land owners not managing the population adequately. This is because people are trying to make money off the deer, which is evident on here from the talk of 'good heads'.

The actions of a few poachers isn't going to affect the overall deer population, building of roads and habitat change have the major affect.

 

 

the illegal shooting of deer is possibly a greater threat than poaching, for the last several years there has been a herd of reds which seem to have a range of about a 6-7 mile radius of my village, there have been between 13-14 to 21-22 hinds in the group for several years and every autumn they take up residence in the woods in the next village, but this year they have not appeared, ive asked around and have heard that they were shot during the summer to reduce the numbers, if this is the case they hve been shot out of season, possibly doing crop damage so not illegal but more likely someone has set out systematically to clear them, i cannot see the herd staying in the same area doing damage or otherwise and taking that sort of beating, i guess the truth will never come out but there a lot of peed of people who loved to see the deer around the villages

 

mikee

[Richie10]

the illegal shooting of deer is possibly a greater threat than poaching, for the last several years there has been a herd of reds which seem to have a range of about a 6-7 mile radius of my village, there have been between 13-14 to 21-22 hinds in the group for several years and every autumn they take up residence in the woods in the next village, but this year they have not appeared, ive asked around and have heard that they were shot during the summer to reduce the numbers, if this is the case they hve been shot out of season, possibly doing crop damage so not illegal but more likely someone has set out systematically to clear them, i cannot see the herd staying in the same area doing damage or otherwise and taking that sort of beating, i guess the truth will never come out but there a lot of peed of people who loved to see the deer around the villages

 

mikee

 

Did you mean 'Legal'?

 

I have a friend in Devon who had been in the Deer Society and its many name changes for 40 years(or abouts). In his particular area it is people with the out of season licences and night shooting licences which have reduced the population. In this area he has seen a crash in the population.

[mikee]

no i meant illegal, if the deer round here were shot in the summer itwould have been done without an out of season licience, cant see anyone going to all that trouble, they would have been lamped and dumped

 

mikee