HDAV Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Just noticed a gun online that seem deecnt and a decent price its not listed on guntrader but on a similar website, now i have emailed and asked about shipping to a local RFD, how does it work? Do i pay before they ship it? What if it turns and i dont like it? Do Distance selling regs apply? Can i take from local dealer try shooting it, then return it if i dont like the way it shoots? If i choose to return it I guess i have to pay shipping costs back? but do i have to pay return RFD fees? What happens if its faulty? Looking for advice from people who have done it, i have a suspicion that its probably already sold and there is one locally for £45 more so is it worth the shipping and possible hassle or should i go see the local one (an hour+ away) and haggle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 RFD usually costs about £40,unless the sender absorbs the cost,which was offered to me twice,might as well see the local one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Only issue is i dont like the local dealer............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 If it's a private sale then you pay your money and buy the gun, then it's shipped to you. They have no right to send it back. My RFD costs £25 to send and receive so +£50. If you send it back it would be another +£50. Buy it if it's cheap and you've held one. Otherwise it's a gamble. You can always sell it on. Not sure how distance selling rules apply - but if you return something then it is up to the buyer to cover return postage costs [unless item sent in error]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 is the gun you are looking at private or a dealer ? if its from a dealer they should offer a warranty on it, say 3 months. last one i bought the guy (dealer) was prepared to send on approval. if they're a trader they should be able to send to your rfd for around £15. although you local rfd will probably charge you £25 to receive it and fill in your certificate. it can be difficult judging a guns condition from peoples description, i was a bit concerned about the way the last one i bought was described, but more than happy with its condition when i collected it, was a lot better than the one my mate bought that was described as immaculate. know what you mean about local rfd, some leave a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 It's a dealer up north I'll ring in the morning and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 It's a dealer up north I'll ring in the morning and see Someone may use the dealer regularly and be going in soon. Worth mentioning to see if someone could check it out for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I bought my AA S410 FAC rifle off this site. He told me exactly what the condition of the rifle was, and he was true to his word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0145wirbelwind Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Would you buy a car with out seeing it first. Buying a gun on line is bad, just RFD to a shop and say to the seller that you will pay in the shop, if it is not what you want send it back. It mite cost £20 to do it, but it is better than being left with a sack of poo(yes it happen to me only nice paid first not a good idea) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 101 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Ask the seller for lots of photos , and build up a raport with him and ask him questions , I am selling a rifle at the moment via an ad in a forum , I have been as honest as Iam with the info so not trying to hide anything . If you do the same by asking questions you will know whether or not the seller is telling the truth , ask for a phone number and talk to him . Any one who is honest enough and genuine wants a quick sale to get their money [ probably to get themselves another rifle ] so they should be more than happy to communicate with you to make for a smooth sale . Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 As its a dealer selling the gun I was hoping there would be more "protection" than buying privately, My missus bought a car unseen but it was an ex demo from a main dealer that worked out well, they delivered the new car and took part-x away.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 with guns it depends what type, I'd buy a rifle untried but wouldn't with a shotgun, simply because the fit is more variable. With regard to shipping etc if you don't like it I reckon it would cost you the same price to send it back as to receive it and it does cause agro so really I wouldn't use it as a good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Well that was a waste of time the one up north was advertised wrongly (advertised as a 20 bore but is actually a 12) and the local one was sold at the weekend....found another one locally...(weird) but more money (more than i wanted to pay...) Thanks for the info anyway chaps. Edited January 20, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 When i bought my 525 from a private seller I did it face to face despite it taking me about an hour to get there that way you get to view the gun and haggle on the price. I would personally avoid RFD transfer unless the gun was hundreds of pounds cheaper than available locally or it was something unique- I can understand the you have issues with the dealer selling the one that is nearby but taking a risk and spending money on an RFD transfer doesn't seem worthwhile to avoid giving the place you don't like some business, besides with some haggling you miust be able to get something off the ticket price of the one near you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Morning all I got a webly and scott 912 that was advertised as nearly new condition sent to my local gun shop. what a bad choice i had to pay for it before he would ship it to the local dealer. he did send it for free but i had to pay £25 admin that was fine but when i picked up the shotgun and took it home i took it apart and found small amounts of rust on the out side of the barrel. when i took out the extended chokes i found more corosion on the chokes. when i went out to shoot the gun i had to double dicharges not a nice feeling all most put me on my ***. as to say i now do not own this gun. My advice would be dont buy before you try as this gun was not as new but did look like it in the advert. over all i lost out by £100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Morning all I got a webly and scott 912 that was advertised as nearly new condition sent to my local gun shop. what a bad choice i had to pay for it before he would ship it to the local dealer. he did send it for free but i had to pay £25 admin that was fine but when i picked up the shotgun and took it home i took it apart and found small amounts of rust on the out side of the barrel. when i took out the extended chokes i found more corosion on the chokes. when i went out to shoot the gun i had to double dicharges not a nice feeling all most put me on my ***. as to say i now do not own this gun. My advice would be dont buy before you try as this gun was not as new but did look like it in the advert. over all i lost out by £100 Was it sold by another shop or a private owner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 As an on-line dealer in guns, many sold to remote customers and RFD shipped, every gun I sell is on the basis of 100% refund if not happy, 7 days to approve. My own feeling is that any seller not prepared to warrant the gun is as described etc is some-one you shouldn't deal with. Warranty should always be part of the deal - I sell from the 7days to see and try, to a years mechanical warranty on a good order pre-owned gun - that's all relative to the age and condition of a gun. Anything effectively sold as seen is described as a project gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Have done this 3 times with Avalon,absolutely no problems at all.You pay to have it shipped,if you're not happy with it ship it back at their expense.Simples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 As an on-line dealer in guns, many sold to remote customers and RFD shipped, every gun I sell is on the basis of 100% refund if not happy, 7 days to approve. My own feeling is that any seller not prepared to warrant the gun is as described etc is some-one you shouldn't deal with. Warranty should always be part of the deal - I sell from the 7days to see and try, to a years mechanical warranty on a good order pre-owned gun - that's all relative to the age and condition of a gun. Anything effectively sold as seen is described as a project gun. Got any nice cheap 20 bores? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Just noticed a gun online that seem deecnt and a decent price its not listed on guntrader but on a similar website, now i have emailed and asked about shipping to a local RFD, how does it work? Do i pay before they ship it? What if it turns and i dont like it? Do Distance selling regs apply? Can i take from local dealer try shooting it, then return it if i dont like the way it shoots? If i choose to return it I guess i have to pay shipping costs back? but do i have to pay return RFD fees? What happens if its faulty? Looking for advice from people who have done it, i have a suspicion that its probably already sold and there is one locally for £45 more so is it worth the shipping and possible hassle or should i go see the local one (an hour+ away) and haggle? i bought my .223 of guntrader from a gunshop in hereford and the bloke from the shop told me every detail as i wanted to get it posted to my mate (who's got a rfd) and he was just about spot on he also said that if i werent happy with it i could send it back for a full refund he didnt even charge me postage it only cost me a score witch i gave my mate for waiting in for the rifle.but i would be carefull of buying private of guntrader just in case the seller isnt 100% truthfull at least with a shop you got a bit of back up if your not happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I have bought one gun - sight unseen. It was okay, but I prefer to see what I am buying. You can't check the feel or fit of a gun by post. I travel to wherever - furthest trip was 750 miles (round trip) to Cornwall. Well worth it, but it needs to be a bargain to start travelling long distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I bought a spare set of open choked barrels for my 687, no problem at all, they were as described condition wise although the chokes were a shade tighter than I was lead to believe. I must be the only bloke with a 687EELL that uses a set of barrels from a 686 most of the time!. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 DO NOT BUY UNSEEN,have just done this on here with a pedretti huspower ,get close up pictures and ask for a FULL and accurate description of its condtion,if it was previously sold on here then get their id and speak to them as well and ask them for a FULL and accurate description to see if they have their story straight DONT DO IT,buy local ftf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 DO NOT BUY UNSEEN,have just done this on here with a pedretti huspower ,get close up pictures and ask for a FULL and accurate description of its condtion,if it was previously sold on here then get their id and speak to them as well and ask them for a FULL and accurate description to see if they have their story straight DONT DO IT,buy local ftf I would buy from a RFD to RFD, privately not keen to be honest.... found an ideal gun locally its just 35% over budget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockers Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 my first shotgun was bought in this way and although I paid very little for it I was shortly to regret the decision. I think if you can try out the gun for fit weight condition etc it makes sense to do so. I bought a breda o/u 12g, the lower barrel firing pin started to misfire after about a week, the stock was too short and the barrels badly pitted. If I ever bought secondhand again I would take a pull through and give the gun a good clean if necessary before deciding to buy. it all depends on your budget, the best two guns i have bought was my bettinsoli bought from a mate and my lanber bought an old boy through sporting gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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