Richie10 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 dead rabbits don't eat wheat simple fact and why most of us get allowed onto land to shoot. That is the important factor and I'm fairly sure a dead rabbit doesn't care if it gets eaten or not. Lots of romantic ideas get bandied about but the fundamental is most of us aren't out to enhance the rabbit population by "managing" it. So eradicate them, shoot it and then gass the burrows(i'm sure farmers don't have to pay it's tax debuctable), then job done. So you don't have to continue the 'pest control'. Fact is you just like blasting things for no purpose. The whole point of shooting is to put food on the table or sport, otherwise you must be paid for it as a job. So are you a paid Pest Controller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Doesnt anyone else say a prayer after every kill? "thank you lord jesus for the rabbit i have just shot and praise be to god for the Hmr, amen" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Doesnt anyone else say a prayer after every kill? "thank you lord jesus for the rabbit i have just shot and praise be to god for the Hmr, amen" i thought u were a .22 man hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I see where you're coming from, but i guess if the farmer's happy then he's doing a good job. There are lots of reasons you might leave them behind, mostly i guess is what the hell would you do with them? I used to give loads to the local wildlife park, cook 'em, give 'em away to friends/neighbours etc. but there's only so many you can use. I guess its no different to mixxy getting them, I see loads of dead ones laying about every day. But ultimately, as HE must know who he is, and he's on here, calling him a **** may seem a bit harsh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 So eradicate them, shoot it and then gass the burrows(i'm sure farmers don't have to pay it's tax debuctable), then job done. So you don't have to continue the 'pest control'. Fact is you just like blasting things for no purpose. The whole point of shooting is to put food on the table or sport, otherwise you must be paid for it as a job. So are you a paid Pest Controller? i think you should join here www.Happy Hoppers Rabbit Forum.com and give me your guns lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bothbarrels Posted September 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I see where you're coming from, but i guess if the farmer's happy then he's doing a good job. There are lots of reasons you might leave them behind, mostly i guess is what the hell would you do with them? I used to give loads to the local wildlife park, cook 'em, give 'em away to friends/neighbours etc. but there's only so many you can use. I guess its no different to mixxy getting them, I see loads of dead ones laying about every day. But ultimately, as HE must know who he is, and he's on here, calling him a **** may seem a bit harsh!! Thats very true, and I understand guys who bag tons of bunnies a night may have a problem getting rid of all of them. And have you ever typed something you wish you never?? name calling isn't really my thing and I do regret that bit, I'll be more careful in the future! BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Thats very true, and I understand guys who bag tons of bunnies a night may have a problem getting rid of all of them. When in Rome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bothbarrels Posted September 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 i think you should join here www.Happy Hoppers Rabbit Forum.com and give me your guns lol Deal! where shal I send them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 i think you should join here www.Happy Hoppers Rabbit Forum.com and give me your guns lol I'll go on that later, they probably know how to skin a rabbit more so than on here. One for you. www.knowmoreaboutthegunsIhavethanthequarryIshoot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I see where you're coming from, but i guess if the farmer's happy then he's doing a good job. There are lots of reasons you might leave them behind, mostly i guess is what the hell would you do with them? I used to give loads to the local wildlife park, cook 'em, give 'em away to friends/neighbours etc. but there's only so many you can use. I guess its no different to mixxy getting them, I see loads of dead ones laying about every day. But ultimately, as HE must know who he is, and he's on here, calling him a **** may seem a bit harsh!! Name calling isn't on. Local zoos and parks will take everything off you and pay, they won't refuse any amount. Unless they are a Deer park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 So eradicate them, shoot it and then gass the burrows(i'm sure farmers don't have to pay it's tax debuctable), then job done. So you don't have to continue the 'pest control'. Fact is you just like blasting things for no purpose. The whole point of shooting is to put food on the table or sport, otherwise you must be paid for it as a job. So are you a paid Pest Controller? have you ever tried eradicating rabbits, on our ground it is nigh on impossible they would keep coming in from over the boundaries. We shoot for sport and the table but don't stop at the point where we have enough for the table as it is done to protect my mates income. He is the worst for just shooting them and leaving and frankly when you run a business that doesn't involve paying to feed rabbits. We do derive sport and enjoyment from it so it does have the second side to it, rabbits here are much like rats and mice vermin that do damage so get controlled simple as that. When you look at what you shoot some times of year they will be tiny and not worth eating others they do make good eating but you can only eat so many. With day jobs that entail leaving the house at 7am gutting them all the night before getting them in a chiller and then taking time off to go to the game dealer is not going to happen. There is a trend on here the ones with the super high morals and idealistic ideas are the ones who do the least of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Name calling isn't on. Local zoos and parks will take everything off you and pay, they won't refuse any amount. Unless they are a Deer park. Hmmm, i guess it depends on the size of the park and how many people are supplying them, i used to regulaly get told they couldn't take any more, and i was giving them away...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 have you ever tried eradicating rabbits, on our ground it is nigh on impossible they would keep coming in from over the boundaries. We shoot for sport and the table but don't stop at the point where we have enough for the table as it is done to protect my mates income. He is the worst for just shooting them and leaving and frankly when you run a business that doesn't involve paying to feed rabbits. We do derive sport and enjoyment from it so it does have the second side to it, rabbits here are much like rats and mice vermin that do damage so get controlled simple as that. When you look at what you shoot some times of year they will be tiny and not worth eating others they do make good eating but you can only eat so many. With day jobs that entail leaving the house at 7am gutting them all the night before getting them in a chiller and then taking time off to go to the game dealer is not going to happen. There is a trend on here the ones with the super high morals and idealistic ideas are the ones who do the least of it. The trend on here is to shoot and leave them, that is evident. You are all saying that it's fine because its pest control from guys that do it for fun and then don't use said quarry but for littering the countryside with decaying bodies. If on the same land your are regularly taking upto a hundred each time you go out, which being on the same land I find it hard to believe. So say you have on average from the numbers supplied, 80 a night and helping out a friend you must go quite regularly so you take quite a few thousands off this land each year and they repopulate for the next year to the same level for you to take so many rabbits you don't know what to do with them. All year round shooting the rabbits and you haven't affected the population... What it is that people shoot them have no idea what to do with them and leave them, the way populations work with constant pressure they will reduce no doubt to a point where you will no longer be shooting those numbers. So you don't feed your GSP rabbit either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 You are all saying that it's fine because its pest control from guys that do it for fun and then don't use said quarry but for littering the countryside with decaying bodies. What the foxes don't eat the birds will have. ..Then the maggots, beetles, ants, wasps will also have some. A carcass won't hang around for long if it's left in a field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Very noble aintcha? A farmer I shoot for when I go on a shooting holiday instructed me to leave them where they fall for other wildlife in the knowledge that Cornwall is so full of rabbits that you can't give many of them away. I shot 119 that night before running out of bullets and 93 three nights later. So I'm disrespectfull. The way I see it, you've just left £212 sitting in a field Thats not including the cost of the ammo as well Disrespectfull...No Daft...Yes SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 What the foxes don't eat the birds will have. ..Then the maggots, beetles, ants, wasps will also have some. A carcass won't hang around for long if it's left in a field. A hundred bodies left night after night, in the summer and winter, look at the numbers mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 A hundred bodies left night after night, in the summer and winter, look at the numbers mentioned. Well the remainder will make for excellent fertiliser then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenBhoy Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 personall, and that means me myself, i wouldn't want to or feel happy leaving that many dead animals laying in a field. yes there are foxes, birds of prey, the bugs - but hundreds of rabbits scattered about? i'm no softy, but i do think there should be a certain amount of respect for the animals we kill, and the best way we can show that is by finding a use for them before you pull the trigger. i'm certainly not condoning the name calling, and as the OP has said, each to their own, but i agree that these days there is a massive difference between real country people, with respect for all aspects of rural life, and then there are people who like to shoot things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 This thread is well funny - I can immediately tell who shoots a lot of rabbits and who doesn't (or who has a lot of time on their hands and an ebay sales account in the exotic) I must print this off and show it to my farmer, he will laugh and it will queue his normal rant about people and their perception of farming and the countryside. The next time I have wandered through a field of corn on a summers day in my sandals and am sitting on the top of a hill with a roll up looking to shoot maybe 2 rabbits I might write a poem about it and see if the Guardian will publish it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 most of that last paragraph seems to apply to "most" hornet owners as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I must admit I have not read all the replies but heres my view I think your original post is perhaps based on lack of understanding and a great lack communication with the other lad. Did you speak to him to find out why he leaves the rabbits? Did you try to understand why this was or did you just bump your gums and then slag him off on a public forum, I shoot upwards of around 650 rabbits a year I take what I need and can use an leave the rest where they fall for mother nature to take care of. When shooting large numbers for pest control its just not possible to find a good home for all of them no matter how hard you try. The advice BASC and others would give (and I know because I have talked to them) is its perfectly ok to do this the worst you can do is pick them up and then make a pile of them. A dead rabbit is a common sight on a farm and causes no offence and very quickly disappears as it will form a meal for something or return to the land. If you went round a week later you would not find many at all! We cant eat them all or can get them to a game dealer………….. My prediction is once you get over this event and gain some experience your opinion will change, and perhaps at that point you may like to apologise to the lad in question for your lack of understanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 and there was me taking you for a sandal wearing guardian reader pavman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) I wonder what a member of the public would think if they came across a field littered with dead rabbits. On the other hand who gives a **** it's pest control eh? :thumbs: Edited September 14, 2011 by dazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) does anyone else want to take the OP out for a nights lamping after this? i take the clean headshot, good condition rabbits if i have 1) got the time 2)got someone who wants them or they get left, it matters not a jot to me which. i'm on the land to control rabbit numbers, and thats what i do. Even if i totally disagreed with someone who was good enough to take me out, i would certainly not come on here whining about them, very ungrateful, and its this sort of reaction that puts people of offering up free shooting. Edited September 14, 2011 by pegasus bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I wonder what a member of the public would think if they came across a field littered with dead rabbits. On the other hand who gives a **** it's pest control eh? :thumbs: They could be done for trespassing They might see a few near the path, but they'll do well to see a field full of them unless they're inspecting the whole thing. Oddly enough, walkers tend to fail to spot two pigeons stuck in a 10mph spin, attached to a green metal device. So I'm sure a couple of dead rabbits will go unnoticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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