masterzone2 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Not sure if this is the right place etc but seams close to me. I have come to hear of a modification called ghosting done on shotguns something to do with removing a small amount of metal on the loading gate thus making shotgun like the escort quicker to load without having to press the button on the side to load the shells. anyone done or had this done? were there any issues afterwards? was your shotgun screwed up as a result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I too, would like to know more about this subject, if anyone has any information. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I've heard this before called ghost loading where you basically 'float' an extra shell. I doubt mine would do it, but I suspect this might have legal consequences anyway as my semi is on a SGC and a 2+1. Google has a few results for ghost loading shotguns, some mentioning the mod required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I can recall a video clip on utube, there is probably a link to it buried somewhere in PW, but I don't recall the term "ghosting" being used. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Not sure if this is the right place etc but seams close to me. I have come to hear of a modification called ghosting done on shotguns something to do with removing a small amount of metal on the loading gate thus making shotgun like the escort quicker to load without having to press the button on the side to load the shells. anyone done or had this done? were there any issues afterwards? was your shotgun screwed up as a result? Hi Masterzone. Probably the practice of pushing the second shell half way into the bottom receiver gate, then pushed home using shell number three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I thought ghosting whas where the magazine was filled and another shell is fed into the space below where the loading mech is. The bolt can then be closed with another cartridge in the breech, making the shotgun hold one more than it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Alot of 3 shot 3 1/2" semis can fit 3 in the mag if using 65/67mm carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Is this it? Just found this on youtube? http://www.youtube.com/user/r6vr6#p/u/6/KpyNoCnO4B4 Edited October 10, 2011 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 What on earth is the point of that? By the time he'd finished dicking about trying to look clever, he could have completely reloaded the thing again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 What on earth is the point of that? By the time he'd finished dicking about trying to look clever, he could have completely reloaded the thing again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 If you can't hit it with 3, you ain't gonna hit it with 4!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) It's ghost loading and its pointless to do (in this country) in anything other than a practical shotgun match, and only then if you are shooting in either Modified or Open division. In many guns it also requires permenant alteration of the gun which will void any warranty. The information the UKPSA has had on the matter from the police is that it does NOT put you in breach of SGC legislation as the loading gate of the gun is not part of the magazine (As only the magazine capacity, not the overall capacity is restricted in the S2 legislation). However, i'd check with your own FLD (who will probably look at you like a confused puppy for even asking ) ATB Mark Edited October 10, 2011 by Breastman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Dose sound totally pointless.. Like Chard said - you can reload so much quicker the normal way- 3 shells easily in the time of trying to Ghost load 1.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Dose sound totally pointless.. Like Chard said - you can reload so much quicker the normal way- 3 shells easily in the time of trying to Ghost load 1.. Some of those PSG chaps could have that loaded and emptied about 5 times in the time it took him to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke.R Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) iv got a fac hatsan escort and it ghost loads by accident quite easily,i have a friend whos applying for his sgc and take him shooting with me quite a lot,he managed to do it 3 or 4 times the first few times he bombed up the tube by himself,its just a case of the round not being pushed into the tube properly and it clicks back out,doesnt have any benifit that i can see and its a ****** to clear if you have to empty it (i can also see it being quite unsafe if you thinl you have the magazine stopper in thinking the guns empty after youve fired 1 round and that ghosted round has chambered when you think its empty) Edited October 10, 2011 by Luke.R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 If this is legal then perhaps it does have a use, just as an FAC shotgun can have a use when a load of pigeons come into your decoys together. I'd be nervous about trying it on my semi though, visions of horribly bent components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke.R Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 cant say its done any damage to mine(saying that its only an escort) not actualy sure how it could as when it happens it basicly mimics what the action does except it doesnt load into the breach it just sits under the action,like i said tho bit pointless tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I've been pigeon shooting countless times when i've killed 2 or 3 pigeons from a bunch and wished i had an extra shell in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 How would they know if I saw plod coming to my hide I'd unload my gun before I stepped out to make my pressence know. Unless of course you where your not meant to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterzone2 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Right after checking the you tube videos it appears I have been misinformed or the way it was explained make me think something different etc. thanks for the replies I can now move on to the next line of enquiry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy198712 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 iv got a fac hatsan escort and it ghost loads by accident quite easily,i have a friend whos applying for his sgc and take him shooting with me quite a lot,he managed to do it 3 or 4 times the first few times he bombed up the tube by himself,its just a case of the round not being pushed into the tube properly and it clicks back out,doesnt have any benifit that i can see and its a ****** to clear if you have to empty it (i can also see it being quite unsafe if you thinl you have the magazine stopper in thinking the guns empty after youve fired 1 round and that ghosted round has chambered when you think its empty) it was quite amusing at the time and purely fluke! like Luke said, it was done by simply pushing in the shell but stopping just short of it clicking in, the gate would be able to close and the shell would spring back behind the gate. but thinking about it, if you had a 2 + 1 when you've put your 2 in the mag, surely there woulnt be enough room to push another in far enough to ghost it surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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