Lloyd90 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) What would be your fav protection / guard dog ? You don't have to go with the flow, just let us know what you think. Say if its just to watch the house and keep away burgulars, to protect you from roughian's, to protect your family or for your business or work. Does anyone here train dogs for this kind of work ? I as a kid had an ex Police german shepherd, I was only young but she was a great dog, she was bought as my dad had 2 break in's in his shop and we lived in the flat upstairs. The 3rd break in and she was home , lucky for them there was some boarding in the hall and they jammed it across to stop them getting eaten and they legged it! Always felt safe when she was about That's when we lived in Bristol, it's alot quieter in South Wales lol, although some one did try n steal my spaniel as a puppy, My 12 month lab ran towards em barking in the middle of the night and that was enough to see them off Edited October 22, 2011 by Bigthug87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) I have had 4 x GSDs and three Akitas. Whilst they were / are all excellent guard dogs / family pets, I would not trust one of them with children. The GSDs were noisier and a more audible deterrent. The Akitas rarely bark, but the ones a burglar would do well to avoid. They are larger framed and stronger. Edited October 22, 2011 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) Cracking dogs mate, I saw one down by me not long ago He said it was a jap type, as there are also an american type which are about twice the size. To be honest though all I have heard is bad things about them being overly dog aggressive and trouble. The one I saw was very nice but the guy was on a special list to rehome troublesome dogs that other's in the rescue centre couldn't cope with! Obviously there not all bad ... btw Gordan,thanks for those pics, your GSD's are very nice looking dogs I have looked at a few that are bred for Shutzhund as am trying to stay away from any type of show/pet and hopefully avoid problem with the back legs :look: Edited October 22, 2011 by Bigthug87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Long haired german crocodile for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) The Japanese line is generally smaller. Our bitch is 95 pound - Japanese line. The dog is 140 pounds - American line. They are not aggressive, but are allegedly ferocious if attacked. The bitch has been attack free, so it is hard to comment. Our dog has been attacked quite a few times and was ferocious. Not a pleasant sight. Edited October 22, 2011 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 English bull terrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 The Japanese line is generally smaller. Our bitch is 95 pound - Japanese line. The dog is 140 pounds - American line. They are not aggressive, but are allegedly ferocious if attacked. The bitch has been attack free, so it is hard to comment. Our dog has been attacked quite a few times and was ferocious. Not a pleasant sight. Nothing wrong with that mate, I can be quite ferocious if some one attacks me The Jap line I saw was a beautiful dog, nice n compact, both yours are looking good in the pics, wouldn't want to break into your place English bull terrier You wana tell us a bit about them mate, why you like em and so on ? Interesting to know Rather than just state a name lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanielchris Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Wouldn't bother with dogs! Big flock of geese all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Wouldn't bother with dogs! Big flock of geese all the way! Alright if you got a bit of land and live in the countryside Not so much if your in a terraced house or a flat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I've had two Doberman's and a bull mastiff cross Rottweiler. The Doberman's were excellent guard dogs, seldom bark, in fact I'd go as far as saying a burgaler could break in not knowing they are there, but I doubt they would get out! Great intelligent dogs but really are a one man dog. Neither ever gave me problems with my family, but when I was out the house the dogs were in charge. I'd often come home and find my dad watching tv and not sitting in his chair, I think it was the dogs way of saying they were king of the castle by not letting my dad have his chair. They would never get on the chair but they would let my dad know he wasn't having it either. Very loyal, but both dogs did try their level best before giving into me being the boss. Once the hierarchy was settled they really were good pets. The bullmastiff cross rottweiler was an exceptional dog. Loyal, obedient, trustworthy. I don't think I would ever own such an amazing creature again. I don't know if it was because she was a bitch, but she mothered us all. She loved and guarded us in equal measures. If I played with her she would.knock me down with ease, yet in all her life she never knocked one of my children over whilst playing. She could be going nuts playing, and she'd approach either of my girls crawling on her belly almost. She died of cancer at 13 about 7 years ago, and I still miss her till this day. She was like having a gentle giant at home, extremely docile but always on alert looking after us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I had a Canary Presa. Hardly barked, the look was enough. Bit of a handful though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 My old Rottweiler was a fantastic watch dog and a perfect pet in every way.Very easy to train and their size is normally enough to intimidate intruders.I know the doom mongers will likely swoop on me,but they really are an easy breed to train and need no extra coaching when used for normal home security.Only downside to the breed is they're often owned by people who really shouldnt have a goldfish let alone a large dog and are also susceptible to cancer which is what took mine sadly. I have a Boxer and Bullmastiff now.The Boxer is typically hyperactive and would knock an intuder over in one of his hypo states then the Mastiff (who is a randy sod) would finish him off by bumming him to death.Not sure how i would ever explain that to the rozzers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 The larger Akita has a pedigree few dogs would match. Out of 62 names - over 40 were Champions - including OBJ The Widowmaker - the World Champion. He sprouted long hair at one month old and could not be shown. We preferred him long haired- large ball of fluff. They are not affectionate dogs in my experience - aloof would be accurate. GSDS are far friendlier. They have all been characters in their own right. I have been lucky with them all. GSDs were easier to train - a little less stubborn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 border collie for me. very loyal and intelligent but can be easily up set with people they dont know. I have a mate who i do some terrier work with, who is a farmer and he has 2. Probably the best guard dogs iv ever seen, they make a load of noise and that usually puts people off. Dogs are far better judges of character than humans are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I had a Canary. Hardly barked, the look was enough. Bit of a handful though. I agree, them canaries can be vicious *******..... Budgies can be a handful too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 My cat would hand your dogs its *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I have two Dobermans, both great guard dogs and the only breed I can think of that was developed specifically for personal protection. Herr Doberman was a tax collector who got fed up with being robbed on his rounds, he was also the town dog catcher and had the pick of breeds to use. Legend has it that he bred the nastiest, smartest dogs he could from Rotty, GSD, Manchester Terrier, German Pincher, Greyhound and a few others. Subsequent breeding has removed some of the nastier elements and made them into excellent family guardians, although they still need a firm hand or they will try to become dominant over some family members. I wouldn't have one with young kids, my lads were both already over 6'3" when we got the dogs and the male still tried it on when he was young. They're fearless when protecting their family and have been known to attack buses and cars if they think them a threat. The Yanks love them, and used them to great effect when clearing the Japanese out of caves and tunnels. If the flamethrowers didn't work, they sent in the Dobies. There is record of one US Army Dobie flushing something like 25 Jap troops out of a cave one at a time. US Army Doberman memorial, Guam; http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Monument_to_Doberman,_Military_Working_Dog_(MWD),_World_War_II_Memorial,_War_Dog_Cemetery._Navel_Base_Guam.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Household guard or personal protection / attack dog there is a big difference. For a household gurd you need something that makes a big din and looks mean but as soft as half melted butter, for the attack dog you need something that does exactly as its told when its told or you have a timebomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Bit of horses for courses I reckon. Our GSP does a great job for us here in the UK and it would take a special kind of burglar to proceed to break into our house with him going off. I am also confident he'd protect me if someone confronted me in the street but at 38kg he is not your typical GSP. If we ever set up a holiday home in Kenya the next investment after securing the plot would be the import of a couple of dobermans. So in summary any proper dog should go a decent job deterring entry to your house but if wanting to protect your grounds then you need to get specialized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 My wheaten terrier puts on a decent show when she thinks there's someone trying to get in...little do they know behind the barking is a soft bundle of wet dog kisses lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 I've always had GSD's and found them a great allround dog for house guarding duties. When her in'doors walks with 'em people genrally give her a wide berth, just the visual detterent is sufficient. However the one we have now is very protective of her when out especially with other dogs, he's not bad with me its just her. An old colleague of mine used to train patrol dogs for HO and trained various breeds including GSD's Rotties and malinois. In conversation he told me the malinois were very intellegent but could be too intellegent for some handlers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) You will never beat a German Shephard for a house dog. No other dog for me, soft as **** but when they bare their teeth there are few out there that would cross them. I had them when the kids were young and their bark is enough. My kids used to push them , pull their hair, wash their faces and ride on their backs but when they took them up the park or went down the shops you knew they were safe. Perfect family dogs. However, like all big dogs they can turn and you have to be aware of that, you have to always let them know who's boss and that can be misconstrued as mishandling by the uninitiated. A bloody good whack from time to time is not cruelty. A friend of mine who was a police dog handler tought me that Edited October 22, 2011 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) I've never had my own dogs but my friends dogs have given me a good base for a few favourites. GSD's are lovely animals. Until quite recentlythey would have been my dog of choice for their mix of tempermant and authority. They're not a thugs dog like rotties and staffies (not saying they're bad dogs, unfortunately they just attract bad owners more than most). Another friend of mine keeps Dobermans, I don't know what to make of them. When I'm around her they watch me like a hawk - there's only one person in the room that matters to them and I'm not that person! Akita's are nice dogs. I think they're the dog to leave in your empty house when you're out. I wouldn't want one because I don't really like them a lot. Nothing personal, I just don't like the look of them. If I could have any dog it would be a Mastiff. No question about it I think they're stunning animals. Very loyal, quite sound temperment, tend to think before they bite. But upset one - well I wouldn't want to! They're a perfect mix of soft and hard and they look the part too. EDIT... I think if I ever have the time to spend with a dog I'll go for a Bull Mastiff - apparently they are easier to handle and train than the original and a fair bit smaller too. Edited October 22, 2011 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Another friend of mine keeps Dobermans, I don't know what to make of them. When I'm around her they watch me like a hawk - there's only one person in the room that matters to them and I'm not that person! That sums them up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Doberman, Akita or Alsatians for me. But I honestly think alot of dogs will do the job if they feel thier home/owners are threatened. I was out on the town last night and forgot to take my keys with me, as I knew better than to wake the misses I tried to climb in through the window at 03:00 this morning... MASSIVE MISTAKE, I think the lab managed to wake up all the neighbours, aswell as my missus :( haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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