Browning 425 clay hunter Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Fenny, can you give any more details. As people are saying let's not jump the gun here can u shed some light on it, has he been out with you a few times then sneaked on you permission or was it a one off trip with him. I appreciate you don't want to start a witch hunt but this has clearly got people backs up. Did the farmer catch him at it and what was his response. The more info you feel comfortable sharing the better picture we have of the situation. ATB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa Bear Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 spoke to the fella stated he had chanced his arm saying he hasnt got anywhere to shoot silly thing is i was going to ask him if he wanted to join a pigeon syndicate forming on the farm silly silly lad If that's the case then he should be named & shamed to protect others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphin Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 spoke to the fella stated he had chanced his arm saying he hasnt got anywhere to shoot silly thing is i was going to ask him if he wanted to join a pigeon syndicate forming on the farm silly silly lad very lucky he still has something to shoot with never mind anywhere to shoot with it atb dolphin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 spoke to the fella stated he had chanced his arm saying he hasnt got anywhere to shoot silly thing is i was going to ask him if he wanted to join a pigeon syndicate forming on the farm silly silly lad Well that throws a different slant on it Fenny he should never have gone onto your land without you guess hes only got himself to blame for the shooting hes going to loose Well done on taking others out anyway mate and lets hope this situation doesnt happen again BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenny Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 the farmer caught him,he said i had given him permission ,the farmer phoned me and asked if anyone was out today as i ring him the night before usually i said no the farmer kicked him off when i asked him why he had lied he said because he had nowhere else to shoot if he had phoned me i would have sent him to a farm where he could have shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning n spaniel Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 if hes pulling tricks like that its no wonder he got nowhere to shoot, silly, sillt **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin64 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I have a term for this type of person , a "POACHER ". It's a good job your farmer is understanding , as this idiot could have nearly got you kicked off for good . I was thinking of offering a day on my permission rabbit shooting , but this has put me off ,as have other members also commented too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenman99 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Fenny, this is the second time this has happened to you in 6 months, i think you should think long & hard on how to stop it happening again before you start losing land. fenman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlander Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) What an **** the bloke is for the sake of a call, I've no doubt you would of helped him to a shed load of shooting but not now. As long as the facts are correct I wouldn't hesitate to name and shame him. Thanks for my day before crimbo again. Outlander Edited January 5, 2012 by Zapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Considering how you allowed him to shoot with you, which is a nice thing for you to do, it is a very poor way to behave. I do think that, although perhaps you don't wish to cause him bother, saying who it is can stop other people having the same problems as you. I'm not suggesting it, but if you wished I expect that it could easily lose him his SGC if it's reported to the police firearms dept, though perhaps that's a little harsh if it's his first time doing this. It's not nice not having anywhere to shoot, I don't have anywhere really, but going onto land that you don't have permission to be on is not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 You say he's a member , so at a rough guess he is probably reading this thread , so do the decent thing and own up because sooner or later its going to come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I sympathize Fenny, your faith in human nature and fellow shooters has taken a knock - never a good feeling. But, you clearly enjoy helping others, you know that watching a friend pull off a cracking shot is as good as doing it yourself. Don't lose heart. Be a bit more selective, perhaps accept applications only by PM and choose people you feel you can trust - I think you'll know who. Oh, name and shame too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 guys, in e light of recent events in he media, people who cannot behave properly with firearms do not deserve to have a sgc. if he really just walked on the land without permission, I would question his judgement in general. it's up to us to weed out irresponsible certificate holders, if we don't police ourselves someone else will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Maybe you should get your guest shooters to sign to say they can only shoot in your company,and log there cert and insurance details this way if they return alone to shoot its easier for you to prove to your landowner that they are shooting without your permission,and you would have there details to take the matter further if needed,anyone with nothing to hide or intending to return alone at a later time would be more than happy to supply the information requested Only an idea fenny but without some sort of proof,it comes down to your word against theres and you could end up losing your permissions, atb BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning n spaniel Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 You say he's a member , so at a rough guess he is probably reading this thread , so do the decent thing and own up because sooner or later its going to come out i 2nd that here,here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lksopener Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Terrible thing to do. What an idiot we have a few thousand acre shoot keepered by myself and my father and a young lad I pretty much set up did the same thing ferreting on my land behind my back. Since then no ones been on and no one will until I know them thoroughly well. What I would say Fenny is enjoy your shooting for a bit and maybe if you do ask offer a day again ask for a donation to the site or a charity? Most of these scrotes just want something for nothing. All the best, Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I cant get my head around how someone would have the balls to do it . . . . . . poaching with an airgun maybe, but with a shotgun :blink: not exactly ''discreet'' are they :look: If it was me, Id have a chat with the FLO as I think the person is too immature to hold a certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 how thick do u have to be to do that? there is not a chance of it was an accident, he knew what he was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsosureshot Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 My first visit to PW in a while and I see this. Sorry to hear about this Fenny, I remember you've been offering new members shooting for a long time now. As with most things, one rotten apple..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Good on you for helping others but i have found a kick in the ******** puts pay to that A shame i no but life's full of them Enjoy what you do and keep it to yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tis1979 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Shame this has happened. guy is a ****! All the best Fenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 If this is all proved to be true,then he should be named so that others do not invite him onto their land,we dont need people like that on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I would suggest that Fenny draws the attention of the member concerned to this thread so that they can offer their version of events. If it simply continues as a string of "name and shame" suggestions it will achieve nothing and will eventually be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan73 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 In the interests of everyone elses' Permissions and generosity, please name and shame .....or if the perpetrator is reading this, own up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 i know of people who go lamping with lurchers where they please with or without permission but with a shotgun :o and where you have been somewhere as a guest this person needs sgc and or fac removed as well as good slap on the wrist and abit more mabey time would teach a lesson to late now : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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