theoben fenman Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Just curious because most people dont seem to acknowledge springers as hunting rifles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Springer all the way, never owned or shot a PCP so wouldn't be any wiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 after experience with HW98 and s410 newer again springer. PCP :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Have in the past shot many different pcp rifles both hunting and in FT comps i came away from the sport for several years and only recently returned i bought myself a HW97K. This was not a money issue but purely an issue with enjoyment, yes a pcp is easier to shoot well and as a pest control tool they are hard to match in airgun terms...... But in terms of pure pleasure a springer is hard to beat and requires far more discipline to achieve the results than just point n squeeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topshunt Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Shoot with both, alternate on different days. love pcps but seem to get more satisfaction with springer. Also keeps your shooting to top of your ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Shot both and can only really afford to have one. PCP for me! Would love to own both, realistically though I have to choose, so the versatility of the PCP is the one for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) HW97k for close range vermin. Diana 52 FAC for a bit further out and a bit of fun for targets. Anything more distance then rimmy .22lr or .17hmr. The most important thing is to have enough umph to kill and not maime. Sorry for those not in the know the HW and Diana are both springers. I'm not one for having too much gubins. Keep it simple I say. Edited June 5, 2012 by Fisheruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I have been shooting for over 30 years and most of us cut our teeth on springers. I still have 3 springers and 7 PCPs i do like to take a springer out from time to time just to feel the kick or recoil. If i get a Rat job thats in a barn or pig sheds i do take my .25 cal springer has it dose the job so well its devour-stating but i only use it if there`s loads of Rats so there is always some to shoot as they don`t all run off from the noise of a springer. :thumbs: But for most of the shooting i use a PCP for the simple reasons they are so much better. You get 70 to 100 shots a fill or more. 10 shot magazines. And by far more accurate. Silent cocking and cycling of the mag. And fitted with a good silencer is almost silent. Stealthy. If i am out shooting crows one shot with a springer and the sky turns black and the crows have gone and your sat twiggeling your thumbs for half an hour. Shoot crows with a good PCP fitted with a good silencer and you can bag up. So for me its PCP every time to get results and thats what you need if you want to keep your permission no Farmer is going to let you shoot on his land if your not getting results. A springer still as a place in Teaching shooting or just shooting for fun but if you need results then its PCP every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Wot, no CO2 option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Erm can't I have both and other? I have a multi pump pneumatic, spring, gas ram, PCP and I am trying to get a CO2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoben fenman Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Erm can't I have both and other? I have a multi pump pneumatic, spring, gas ram, PCP and I am trying to get a CO2... Um do what you feel is best it got too complicated trying to fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 i hunt with both springer and pcp.i also target shoot with both,last season i shot the competition with my hw97 (i usaully use my air arms shamal) and i got a 96.2/100 average which shows how accurate a springer can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I use a .177 Logan Solo PCP and a .22 SMK XS78 CO2 for hunting. They are both effective. I haven't used a springer since I was a teenager, but in those days the sort of springers that passed through my hands then were really only for plinking with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoben fenman Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Ok guys pcps are clearlt ahead but springers dont seem to be far behind, final votes now please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda32 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 For me it's a pcp or gas strut like your fenman, the thing with springers is that they loose power over time. They also loose power when your sitting in the ditch waiting for that rabbit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) Voted for other reason is just upgraded to Fac But had the ultra pcp could not fault it until I got a Cz 452 Edited June 6, 2012 by bullet1747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoben fenman Posted June 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Voted for other reason is just upgraded to Fac But had the ultra pcp could not fault it until I got a Cz 452 Yep my fathers got a mauser training rifle from ww1/2 and to be honest im strugguling to see why people pay so much for a pcp when a rimfire is cheaper. There must be a huge difference between springers and rammers. Ive heard the defining factor is with a pcp you can watch the pellet hit the crosshairs. Well i achieved that the other day whilstr plinking and have now replicated it several times. Good to see the springers/ rammers catching up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Sub 12 ftlb i dont think you can beat a good springer - if you can shoot one. Power doesn't drop off, they dont leak, dont need filling and has no power curve and are generally very tough and easy to service. i can also pick them up from the safe and fire a shot without checking the fill or topping them up at Fac levels springers get a liitle too unruely to shoot well and i preffer the extra power you can get also with a PCP. for all those that like consistancy my Venom lazerglide HW 80 will only vary 4fps from first shot to as many as you like, single figure consistancy is no unusual thing in a top quality springer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoben fenman Posted June 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Sub 12 ftlb i dont think you can beat a good springer - if you can shoot one. Power doesn't drop off, they dont leak, dont need filling and has no power curve and are generally very tough and easy to service. i can also pick them up from the safe and fire a shot without checking the fill or topping them up at Fac levels springers get a liitle too unruely to shoot well and i preffer the extra power you can get also with a PCP. for all those that like consistancy my Venom lazerglide HW 80 will only vary 4fps from first shot to as many as you like, single figure consistancy is no unusual thing in a top quality springer I have to say the first grouping i got with the fenman surprised me, it was good! I had allways been of the opinion that if you move the barell surelly that can't be good and the gun never seems to have varied to any noticeable level in fps. However that is just obtained by groupings as oppose to chronographs, i appear to yet again be in an airgun minority (i wish they had a degree in this) as i dont own a chronograph. Cant see the point. PCP wise i love the idea of owning one, the accuracy is better and you can stay in your position whilst reloading. Being a big fan of the prone shot shooting a springer/rammer is a pain in the rear as you have to roll onto your side then cock or stand/kneel. So for me the multi or even single shot bolt action pcp is a dream. However it will allmost certainlly stay a dream with a kit including bottle, gun and scope etc new costs at best about £500. I love airgunning and think its a great sport but you can pick up rimfires for about £150 (secondhand ill grant you) and i cant understand why people pay for it. Anyway im even more glad the springers are defenitly making up for lost groung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drone Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 I've an old bsa airsporter, just respringing it, forgotten how damn hard it is to compress that spring, mind the spring is more than 30 years old....with all that faffing I'd like to try a pcp but will probably get a ruger 10/22 instead if I get an itch that's hard to scratch, if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 For me it's a pcp or gas strut like your fenman, the thing with springers is that they loose power over time. They also loose power when your sitting in the ditch waiting for that rabbit... Don't know about that, my Vulcan is still nudging twelve ft lbs and its had the same spring in it for over twenty five years. I admit, however, that gas rams are superior . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoben fenman Posted June 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Ohh springers are in front now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescafem Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Springer for hunting and pcp for fun and target purposes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Just curious because most people dont seem to acknowledge springers as hunting rifles So what were we shooting all those rabbits etc with before the PCP came to the fore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 (edited) Springers are always usefull for beginners and for people who fancy a change. Now a days I think a decent pcp is a much more efficient choice.Although springers will always (and quite rightly so) still have a place in a hunters armoury the choice is down to the shooter,obviously money is a big factor for many when deciding on which to get. 1. They are 10 times quieter than a springer. 2. Most of them now have a multi shot option,so if you miss you can quickly reload the gun and refire. (without having to hardly move around like you would cocking a break barrel/under lever) 3. A lot of them are lighter. 4. They have little or no recoil making them easyier to be more accurate with. The downsides are obviously they are more expensive,and you have to maintain the air level in order to keep shooting. Edited June 10, 2012 by tomhw100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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