magoo the noo Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Hi all, I went out this afternoon shooting over wheat stubble. Set up pattern which included a magnet. Shot 8 in about an hour, when a guy turns up (who shoots the same farm) told me its now illegal to shoot over stubble, especially with a magnet. I said I was shooting vermin not crop protection. He was cool about it, but said be aware it's illegal ? Regards James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.philmypower. Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 No what a load of tosh your fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 As above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 As above the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 i concur with those above me Hes probably just trying to put you off to get you off the field so he can hit it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 told me its now illegal to shoot over stubble, especially with a magnet. Did you not ask him why..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Tell him to his face he's a ****** next time you see him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 seems to be a bit of mis conception over this one. the general licence states woodpigeon can be shot when causing damage to crops and seen as stubble is not growing crop then i suppose do gooders etc could dispute the purpose of shooting them. i certainly cannot beleive it is illegal in anyway. any farmer will agree it's good time to make a dent in the pigeon population while the birds are feeding heavily and young birds are about. crack on i would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 when you next see him tell him its illegal to talk bull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Would it not be the case that under the general licence you can shoot vermin to protect crops. If the crops aren't there anymore then there could be a point. Not sure, just speculating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Would it not be the case that under the general licence you can shoot vermin to protect crops. If the crops aren't there anymore then there could be a point. Not sure, just speculating But the next crop is going in soon, and the seed / seedlings could be battered by the pigeon, crows etc. Let the B S peddler be as careful as he likes. You fill yer boots. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 They are eating the crops, its up to the farmer if he wants to go and pick up the left overs the combine leaves behind or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) As above. A wee bit late so I really meant as above the above again. Edited September 20, 2012 by sako751sg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn pigeon shooter Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I'm shooting on stubble at the moment. Keeping pigeon numbers down before my farmer puts drillings inn that bloke is talking ...t I take it you not been shooting on that land for long if so that tells me he wants the shooting for himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I said I was shooting vermin not crop protection. Regards James I would just advise to be careful not to repeat that bit again. This question always comes up at stubble time - but this year it seems there is a bit of a campaign around. Started by one of the anti organaisations maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo the noo Posted September 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I think I might be treading on his toes. The farmer gave me & my pal permission to shoot over his land. I think this guy is a bit p****d about it. But need to be sure I'm legal. He mentioned did I have a vermin license ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I think I might be treading on his toes. The farmer gave me & my pal permission to shoot over his land. I think this guy is a bit p****d about it. But need to be sure I'm legal. He mentioned did I have a vermin license ? did he also ask if you knew where he could buy a tin of striped paint or a left handed screw driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 what a pillock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 He mentioned did I have a vermin license ? It gets better.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo the noo Posted September 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Thanks for all the comment's, I think I have smelt the coffee now. Regards James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Vermin are shot under the terms set out in the general licence. You do not need to apply for one. "Prevention" is the key word when shooting over stubble fields. We know the field will soon be drilled and we know the pigeons will hammer it, so you are preventing the birds from causing the dammage. Just the same as roost shooting, your intercepting the birds to prevent further dammage to crops. The man your speaking with clearly knows nothing, read up on the rules of the general licence and next time you see him, fire some questions his way.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Would it not be the case that under the general licence you can shoot vermin to protect crops. If the crops aren't there anymore then there could be a point. Not sure, just speculating This seems to be the attitude of Hampshire Police. when asked why you are shooting you have to state the correct purpose under the GL. A shooter was successfully prosecuted for shooting Canadas on a golf course when he stated that he was shooting vermin without stating it was related to control of disease etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 This seems to be the attitude of Hampshire Police. when asked why you are shooting you have to state the correct purpose under the GL. A shooter was successfully prosecuted for shooting Canadas on a golf course when he stated that he was shooting vermin without stating it was related to control of disease etc... come on then lets have a confirmation of that one, canadas are as an invasive non native species on the part of the GL where you don't have to proove damage. With regard to this case the technicality is correct as would be the question have you tried non lethal means of deterrent first? In practice everyone does shoot them but its a shady area but one that is unenforced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 :lol: You don't have to catch the pigeons 'red handed' eating crops to comply with the GL. That’s like having a vaccination program where you only administer the drugs once the person is infected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hi all, I went out this afternoon shooting over wheat stubble. Set up pattern which included a magnet. Shot 8 in about an hour, when a guy turns up (who shoots the same farm) told me its now illegal to shoot over stubble, especially with a magnet. I said I was shooting vermin not crop protection. He was cool about it, but said be aware it's illegal ? Regards James Well, just my two pennies worth, and with the absence of our learned aide to guide you.... You should of realised that 'talking' wasn't going to solve anything, the time had obviously come to engage the knuckles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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