Browning 425 clay hunter Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I can see this going a good 6/7 pages before it gets locked. Popcorn at the ready ATB 425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) I am not sure if flightless geese are going to be worth eating. Moulting and replacing flight feathers takes a hell of a lot of energy and freshly moulted geese are usualy in poor condition. I should add that I have handled 100s of them while goose ringing. Edited November 7, 2012 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab10 Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 in that case the geese shouldnt be culled when moulting only when they can be used for food . i realise that through the moulting period is probably the best time to cull but in this day and age when shooters try to justify the sport (apart from people who dump stuff in hedges) by game to eat etc the authorities should be doing there best to do the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 great win by celtic tonight,, :lol: bet that wont make the radio,,terrible thing dumping,or was it FLY TIPPING :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samyw Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Fully with Pole Star on this one, his OP is obviously about a number of geese being shot and dumped. Something which has plagued goose shooting in Scotland for years, guns going up there, enjoying a days decoying, usually taking a big bag (bag as in the number shot), then wondering 'what the hell are we going to do with this lot?' So some, or even all, are put into the nearest ditch to rot. A total waste of good meat and not something any decent sportsman would ever condone. If you just want to shoot stuff stick to clay pigeons. Bang on pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Sorry Pole Star but you were on a hiding to nothing with your post and subsequent retort. The post did not contain very much information and your reply was guaranteed to elicit obtuse responses. No right minded sportsman would ever discard a bag of geese as described, though I understand that it does happen and the practice should be frowned upon. The most likely source of information about this will be the locals and more specifically goose guides who may themselves may not be responsible but they will almost certainly be able to find out who was. Sorry JDog that the post did not contain a lot of info but yesterday I had to rush off to Kirkwall Sheriff court in a case I with Italian Wild Meat Collectors & Exporters & I am now off to see how the proceeedings go in court between them & the RSPB ! watch this space & keep an eye out for your copy of the shooting times coz its coming soon ! . Good Luck Pole Star Edited November 8, 2012 by Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) great win by celtic tonight,, :lol: bet that wont make the radio,,terrible thing dumping,or was it FLY TIPPING :lol: Is that all you got to do or say gets a life mate ! it helps ! Edited November 8, 2012 by Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 The news update is that it was approxiamtely 40 graylay geese who had been shot and tied into pairs. There don't appear to be any laws broken save for those in relation to littering and environmental health. David Brown from the local environmental health dept. said “The geese have not been de-breasted, which often happens when they are shot to provide meat, and appear to have been shot quite recently,” and “Left in this way, they could have attracted vermin and it is disappointing that whoever did this did not find a more responsible way of disposing of the birds.” I'm glad to help out with some better detail and more information If it had not been for a pressing court hearing with a criminal case smart A... I would have had time to get it But thanks anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) If it had not been for a pressing court hearing with a criminal case smart A... I would have had time to get it But thanks anyway Does that mean your "Italian Wild Meat Collectors" got away with it? Edited November 8, 2012 by huffhuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRamsay Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 great win by celtic tonight,, :lol: bet that wont make the radio,,terrible thing dumping,or was it FLY TIPPING :lol: Who,s Celtic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Sorry JDog that the post did not contain a lot of info but yesterday I had to rush off to Kirkwall Sheriff court in a case I with Italian Wild Meat Collectors & Exporters & I am now off to see how the proceeedings go in court between them & the RSPB ! watch this space & keep an eye out for your copy of the shooting times coz its coming soon ! . Good Luck Pole Star I knew it, this thread just had to get around to those pesky Italians sooner or later , shame the wild food collecting Italians did not come across the bag of geese it would have saved all this trouble !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Come on then Pole Star...what's the verdict Did they get deported or sentenced to hard labour or was the case of the century thrown out for lack of evidence Azzurri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Come on then Pole Star...what's the verdict Did they get deported or sentenced to hard labour or was the case of the century thrown out for lack of evidence Azzurri Just sit tight mate ! the wheels of justice turn slowly ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 surely someone can write out a fixed fine £50 ticket faster than that or are the italians running too fast to pin it to them. Lets face it in conflict they do have a reputation for being quite hard to catch up with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
here iam Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I have Italian friends they love the country side and know how to shoot so do not tar them all with the same brush their is good and bad people in all nationalities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 could be worse down here they and their greek friends have trouble telling geese from those rather protected large white birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I have Italian friends they love the country side and know how to shoot so do not tar them all with the same brush their is good and bad people in all nationalities Exactly...Just because you are a Leeds fan doesn't mean you all go round punching goalkeepers :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody801 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Humour me, where's the illegal bit precisely? Are we talking littering or a bag of Brent Geese? It's not a question of legality, its more one of morels. What happened to one for the pot? Leaving birds like this ( if they were left rather than forgotten) looks bad on our sport and gives fuel to the anti's. Also it's a waste of decent meat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 high time we had legally enforceable bag limits for geese, it's been illegal to sell wild geese for years. Maybe a ban on irresponsible, greedy overseas shooters would be of great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) I am all for shooting in moderation , but goose bag limits would open a can of worms that would be hard to shut. My personel bag limit varies between 2 and 6 depending on how many geese I have shot recently and how far I have to carry them. But thats my choice and i would not welcome the police laying down the law here. Next thing it will be legal limits on the number of woodcock or duck that can be shot. Legal limits is a road i would not want to go down. Edited November 9, 2012 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bad lindz Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) high time we had legally enforceable bag limits for geese, it's been illegal to sell wild geese for years. Maybe a ban on irresponsible, greedy overseas shooters would be of great help. Will that include all the bad sports from down south who had nothing to say but a slagging for this post I am with anser2 regarding the bag limits most of us have our own limits as do most of the responsable goose guides on Orkney and other parts of Scotland. They do not get paid by the bag amount but by the outing. If you do not shoot anything you still have to pay them for there services. Edited November 9, 2012 by big bad lindz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) I am all for shooting in moderation , but goose bag limits would open a can of worms that would be hard to shut. My personel bag limit varies between 2 and 6 depending on how many geese I have shot recently and how far I have to carry them. But thats my choice and i would not welcome the police laying down the law here. Next thing it will be legal limits on the number of woodcock or duck that can be shot. Legal limits is a road i would not want to go down. Good post. I think those that are taught the ways of fowling in a proper way will be responsible enough and have enough respect to have their own bag limit depending on alot of different things (location, population, weather etc) Unfortunatly their are too many who just see thousands of geese coming over here in the winter and get carried away and play the numbers game. I would not like to see a law determining bag limits. its a shame we have a few that do these stupid things that jepordise (sp) it for the rest of us. it shows a lack of respect for the land, landowner and most importantly, the geese in question! maybe no law was broken but as has been said, fuel for the antis..we all get tar'd with the same brush! Edited November 9, 2012 by TJ91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Why oh why do farmers think they have a god given right to destroy things that interfere with their businesses? Geese, baders, all sorts of other wild life from pollution from fertilizers, persticides, herbicides etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Why oh why do farmers think they have a god given right to destroy things that interfere with their businesses? Geese, baders, all sorts of other wild life from pollution from fertilizers, persticides, herbicides etc. etc. whats baders? good job all them crops provide food for so many animals that dont get destroyed, thers a balance, we try maintain by shooting some animals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
here iam Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 At last it take s a Irish man with a sense humour :lol: :lol: :lol: marching on together we love you pigeon watch na, nan na Leeds , leeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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