Which Charity? Pigeon Watch NvS 2013

[neil3728]

As I have had personal experiance, can i put a vote against macmillan.

[Reece]

I would recommend something to do with wildlife conservation.

 

Perhaps the Penrith and District Red Squirrel Group? They're local and volunteer run, so there are hardly any governance costs. I believe rsrjerry does something with them. The group has done some good work in the Penrith area controlling grey squirrels.

 

http://www.penrithredsquirrels.org.uk/

 

I was going to suggest Red Squirrel Survival Trust, but PDRSG has less money so they would benefit more from the money.

 

Really? No one liked my suggestion?

 

Moderators note: I have come across this discussion forum on the internet and was most interested to see this discussion. I am keen not to infringe your house rules and did not want to advertise what we do through the forum but I feel we may be an attractive option for the members given the online discussion about the charity selection. I hope you feel able to share the following with the members:

 

Hi everyone - I have stumbled across your discussion online and was fascinated to read about the discussion regarding this year's charity selection. I run a small organisation based in Essex but working nationally called Dementia Adventure. We specialise in connecting people living with dementia with nature and give people a sense of adventure in their lives. There are only four of us on the team yet we have achieved an enormous amount in the 4 years we have been running including winning an international dementia excellence award. We set up Dementia Adventure after personal family experiences and frustrations with large organisations and charities (for the reasons already stated by others here). We have plans to provide a minimum of 6 adventure holidays this year around England including sailing holidays and walking holidays. I would happily tell you more if you would like further information, there is also further information online via www.dementiaadventure.co.uk . If you were to chose us we would ensure that the funds raised would go entirely on delivering the holiday experiences (our salaries and overheads being covered by other income). Thank you for considering us in your selection plans this year.

 

I think you'd be fine with promoting a charity, it's just businesses run for profit that are affected I think, because some may compete with PW advertisers. Could be wrong on that though.

 

 

 

As for MacMillan Cancer Support, they seem to have a lot of money, as seen by the link below (over £140 million). I was thinking a more local, smaller charity where a few grand would make a real difference, why I suggested PDRSG.

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=261017&SubsidiaryNumber=0

 

Be sure to check out the charities on the charity commission website, to check how much money they have and where it goes.

[Mr Potter]

Sorry Reece but I am sure the right way to go is with a "people" charity not an animal one, however worthy.

 

I thought that Orchid was the best charity we could support for the very reasons that one of the few female members on here, Auntie (100milesaway), so eloquently put in #21. However there is a charity into an issue that does affect either sex and currently has no cure. Not something I've got any personal insight into but I do know a couple of people who are affected by this and whilst it might not be life threatening is certainly life changing.

 

This life shattering issue is spinal cord injuries which cause paralysis. I would guess that the primary cause is accident but there maybe other causes, the end result is a wheelchair or bed bound, as I said I don't know the finer details of the scope of such injuries, I do know it is a life sentence but I would think with advances in things like genetic engineering it certainly has the possibility of a cure within a generation or so.

 

So my nomination is Spinal Research (Reg Charity No. 281325) http://www.spinal-research.org/

 

Mr Potter

[Paul223]

Sorry Reece but I am sure the right way to go is with a "people" charity not an animal one, however worthy.

 

I thought that Orchid was the best charity we could support for the very reasons that one of the few female members on here, Auntie (100milesaway), so eloquently put in #21. However there is a charity into an issue that does affect either sex and currently has no cure. Not something I've got any personal insight into but I do know a couple of people who are affected by this and whilst it might not be life threatening is certainly life changing.

 

This life shattering issue is spinal cord injuries which cause paralysis. I would guess that the primary cause is accident but there maybe other causes, the end result is a wheelchair or bed bound, as I said I don't know the finer details of the scope of such injuries, I do know it is a life sentence but I would think with advances in things like genetic engineering it certainly has the possibility of a cure within a generation or so.

 

So my nomination is Spinal Research (Reg Charity No. 281325) http://www.spinal-research.org/

 

Mr Potter

I like that one, have a mate who lost the use of his legs in a bike accident through damage to his spine, very good cause!

[figgy]

I'd like to nominate Orchid male cancer charity,as has been said a small relatively unknow charity that does so much.

 

Figgy

[shaun4860]

curve ball

 

why not Orchid AND Different strokes, that way they both get something

 

I for one wouldnt object to either of them being chosen again, although I thought Different Strokes did put a bit more effort in, I may be wrong though?

 

[shoot and be safe]

I'm with the thought of supporting a local charity against a national one, as the smaller one doesn't spend the money raised on admin or cars for the chairman/woman to drive around in.

 

A charity close to my heart is St Kentigern, a cancer hospice charity based in North Wales where my mother, and nan were both patients.

 

Either way a human rather than animal charity would be preferred, after all we do have a shot or two at the animals and that wouldn't be quite right in my eyes!

[delburt0]

I think we all have a local preference to a local charity as mine would be barnsley hospice , but even though they are all worthwhile causes maybe a charity that we all no or could relate to may be the way forward.

[Rupert]

http://www.pinkevents.org.uk/ This charity is run bt a couple whose whole family are touched by cancers.They raise funde for specific items and projects,so you get to know how your funds helped.Run at virtually zero admin out of a spare room.

[BerettaSV10]

A small charity please,over the last couple of months I have been job hunting,not unusual I hear you say however you need to see how much these large charitys pay for collecting,RSPB-£14000 PLUS ON COMMISSION,British red cross £14000-£18000,the box's of charity sweets you see almost everywhere upto £1400 amonth,so lets be sensable and go with a charity that will use the money to help others and not them selves.

 

Agree with the above, don't like the charities that use like 90% of monies donated to pay themselves, and only 10% go to where its needed. Support a charity where they will appriciate the money and us most if not all of it where its really needed and where doners intended it to be used.

[Beretta06]

I am unsure how much you hope to raise, but why not support more than one charity? If you make £3000, why not £500 for six small ones? To a small charity £500 will be a big amount :-)

[Reece]

I am unsure how much you hope to raise, but why not support more than one charity? If you make £3000, why not £500 for six small ones? To a small charity £500 will be a big amount :-)

 

I think it would be best to stick to 1 charity. I wouldn't think £500 would be a lot, even to the smaller charities.

 

Agree with the above, don't like the charities that use like 90% of monies donated to pay themselves, and only 10% go to where its needed. Support a charity where they will appriciate the money and us most if not all of it where its really needed and where doners intended it to be used.

 

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/

 

Good idea to check suggested charities with this website. See how much money they have and where they spend it.

Try to use the charity number if you want to do a search, the names entered on the website can be a bit weird sometimes. Like the spinal research one I checked, several charities had similar names and I had to use the number.

[delburt0]

Why doesn't teal open a voting forum where you only put , "CHARITY NAME AND CHARITY NUMBER ONLY" , leave it open for 2 weeks "or let the mods to choose a timeline" stick on the home page so everyone gets to see the thread,, if no one votes within the 2 weeks it shows there not regulars on the site anyway,,, if the mods think its a worthwhile and genuine charity "it gets vetted etc" it gets forwarded into a draw, after the voting has closed the draw gets made by teal, after all its his site and we wouldnt be here if it wasnt for him,, its fair, and its giving every charity a fair chance of receiving the money from the north beating the south... :lol: ...

Edited February 24, 2013 by delburt0

[100milesaway]

He usually does. from Auntie.

Edited February 24, 2013 by 100milesaway

[bakerboy]

The problem with choosing a local charity, is "local to who"

 

 

"why not Orchid AND Different strokes", that way they both get something, as suggested by Tam , is a good idea. We have not done two before lets see what happens

[marktattoo]

my choice would be as mentioned already

 

macmillan cancer care

 

or

 

roy castle lung cancer foundation

[stokie]

How about the Donna Louise trust .

It's a charity hospice for children with terminal illness . They are there for both kids and their parents to help in the last days of a child's life

[Canis]

Of the idea's put forward, I l.ike the idea of hounds for hero's. smaller charity without being a strictly" Local " one .

 

Dogs, helping Service personel who've done their bit for what remains of this green and pleasant land; whats not to like?

[neil3728]

As I volunteer for a charity I might as well put it forward.

 

4x4 Response is the charity name, it operates to help CAT 1 & 2 responders during adverse weather conditions.

[VicW]

How about the Donna Louise trust .

It's a charity hospice for children with terminal illness . They are there for both kids and their parents to help in the last days of a child's life

 

I'll go along with this charity,they do a lot of good and are of the smaller,non national type that PigeonWatch goes for.

Based in Stoke=on-Trent they are probably close to the choice of venue for the shoot.

 

http://www.donnalouisetrust.org/index.php?page=32

 

Vic.

[Mr Potter]

There are probably thousands and thousands of smaller charities that deserve our support and in my opinion choosing one is a nightmare. Probably every city, town and in some cases villages has a hospice and or children's hospice that could make out a heart tugging case for our money. How though do we choose which one, is the Warrington one more deserving than the Southampton one or the one in Aberdeen or Swansea.

We need to choose a small national charity preferably with some relevance to our membership which is why our 2nd and 3rd charities, Orchid & Different Strokes were just about ideal, Orchid in particular given that what 99% of PW members are male.

As my previous post I want us to support a spinal research charity this year, don't know if it's small enough but it certainly relevant, it (spinal injury) can affect young and old, male or female and anywhere from Land's End to John o' Groats.

 

All who have supported the previous PW Charity shoots have put themselves out big time, significant financial outlay when you take into account travel and accommodation, time not only in attending but in other ways like to blag raffle prizes and donations etc, etc. I'm not saying we don't get anything back, especially those staying overnight and meeting up. The glue for all this is the charity though, we wouldn't do this just for the hell of it we need the right charity to hang the rest of it on. It's classic win win, they get much needed money, we get to enjoy ourselves.

 

Don't actually like saying this but I doubt if I could get myself motivated for all the effort we put in if this was in aid of an animal charity however worthy (or fluffy). Same goes to a lesser extent for an area specific people charity. If I'm going to support a hospice for example I want to support a local one.

Picking the right one is difficult, heart & cancer are probably the two that potentially will affect all of us either directly or through close family members. Both those are well covered, some charities are "fashionable" currently Help for Hero's is huge and IMHO is a classic example of the charitable donations propping up the work of government, they sent them off to be injured and then rely on marathon runners to pay for treatment, rehabilitation and after care. RNLI is another prime example, a very well supported charity doing the work that either the Coastguard or the Services should be doing.

 

Lets chose carefully, not too much sentiment but were we think our donations will make a difference.

 

Mr Potter

[PhilR]

Well put Mr P.

[Yellow Bear]

[Paul223]

http://www.tinnitus.org.uk/

 

given our collective pass time there is a good chance of a fair few of us needing help or advice at some point from these people

 

 

 

 

 

heres what the charity comm have on them

http://www.charity-c...sidiaryNumber=0

Edited February 27, 2013 by Paul223

[bakerboy]

There are probably thousands and thousands of smaller charities that deserve our support and in my opinion choosing one is a nightmare. Probably every city, town and in some cases villages has a hospice and or children's hospice that could make out a heart tugging case for our money. How though do we choose which one, is the Warrington one more deserving than the Southampton one or the one in Aberdeen or Swansea.

We need to choose a small national charity preferably with some relevance to our membership which is why our 2nd and 3rd charities, Orchid & Different Strokes were just about ideal, Orchid in particular given that what 99% of PW members are male.

As my previous post I want us to support a spinal research charity this year, don't know if it's small enough but it certainly relevant, it (spinal injury) can affect young and old, male or female and anywhere from Land's End to John o' Groats.

 

All who have supported the previous PW Charity shoots have put themselves out big time, significant financial outlay when you take into account travel and accommodation, time not only in attending but in other ways like to blag raffle prizes and donations etc, etc. I'm not saying we don't get anything back, especially those staying overnight and meeting up. The glue for all this is the charity though, we wouldn't do this just for the hell of it we need the right charity to hang the rest of it on. It's classic win win, they get much needed money, we get to enjoy ourselves.

 

Don't actually like saying this but I doubt if I could get myself motivated for all the effort we put in if this was in aid of an animal charity however worthy (or fluffy). Same goes to a lesser extent for an area specific people charity. If I'm going to support a hospice for example I want to support a local one.

Picking the right one is difficult, heart & cancer are probably the two that potentially will affect all of us either directly or through close family members. Both those are well covered, some charities are "fashionable" currently Help for Hero's is huge and IMHO is a classic example of the charitable donations propping up the work of government, they sent them off to be injured and then rely on marathon runners to pay for treatment, rehabilitation and after care. RNLI is another prime example, a very well supported charity doing the work that either the Coastguard or the Services should be doing.

 

Lets chose carefully, not too much sentiment but were we think our donations will make a difference.

 

Mr Potter

 

Nicely said