Soldiers to be made redundent

[krugerandsmith]

When this Government requires fighting men for overseas conflicts ...... Go yourselves you cheapskates ... don't ask Territorials to risk their necks for nothing

[glb8686]

They know what they are getting into so cant complain.

[al4x]

weren't 80% voluntary so probably looking to leave anyway and grabbed the money, after that I would imagine a fair few are well up the ladder so to speak so costing the country a packet. Though they do a fine job they do at times not know they are born job wise, we've a relative recently out and he is struggling to find a job but the expectation is 40k a year and he has been used to having pretty much most things subsidised so coming back to the real world is proving to be a bit of a shock.

[Gilberts1989]

There was 36 people volunteer for it in our place and only 6 got it. Highest pay out being 72 grand. ******* yes please

[Vince Green]

The big problem with the army, and its always been the same, they don't train people for life outside the army. Those that have trades are only army specific trades that don't work so well in civvy street. Many come out virtually unemployable.

[ordnance]

The big problem with the army, and its always been the same, they don't train people for life outside the army. Those that have trades are only army specific trades that don't work so well in civvy street. Many come out virtually unemployable

 

If you are in the infantry for example then that's what the army is going to train you on. But there are numerous trades that soldiers are trained on in the army.

[bruno22rf]

Are we not missing the point here?-our Armed forces are raped every year in the name of economy but who the hell can put a price on security?. A nation is only as strong as the forces that it commands and to further reduce our already weakened Armed forces is short sighted at best. This is a cruel world and things aint about to get better.

[al4x]

Are we not missing the point here?-our Armed forces are raped every year in the name of economy but who the hell can put a price on security?. A nation is only as strong as the forces that it commands and to further reduce our already weakened Armed forces is short sighted at best. This is a cruel world and things aint about to get better.

 

90.000 people though thats one hell of a lot of security especially bearing in mind the toys they play with

[bruno22rf]

Really,al4x?-when you consider that a country like Iran has approx. 550,000?

[welsh1]

The big problem with the army, and its always been the same, they don't train people for life outside the army. Those that have trades are only army specific trades that don't work so well in civvy street. Many come out virtually unemployable.

I was a very good welder,hgv/psv, fork lift to 16tonnes,safety boat operator/supervisor among a lot of other things, hardly the virtually unemployable person you think.

 

In my favour was i turned up on time ,did my job,worked hard, and even suggested how to do some things better and more efficient left the army on a friday, had an interview on the monday morning and started working on the tuesday,i was the only person to turn up in a suit

[Cranfield]

The number of personnel in the armed forces rarely influences who wins the wars.

 

India has 1,3 million and Korea 1.1 million, we had better not upset them.

[Bluebarrels]

 

90.000 people though thats one hell of a lot of security especially bearing in mind the toys they play with

I disagree and recent events in Woolwich prove we need security,whether it be Army, Police of whoever problem ive got when the **** hits the fan,flooding,Bse,fire strikes or anything else who you gonna call? not the Army because you can only chip away so much some on here need to wake up and smell the coffee,its easy to say whats right and wrong sat in your comfy office,but trust me some on here speak from experience and the money paid to soldiers is well earnt BB

[welsh1]

I disagree and recent events in Woolwich prove we need security,whether it be Army, Police of whoever problem ive got when the **** hits the fan,flooding,Bse,fire strikes or anything else who you gonna call? not the Army because you can only chip away so much some on here need to wake up and smell the coffee,its easy to say whats right and wrong sat in your comfy office,but trust me some on here speak from experience and the money paid to soldiers is well earnt BB

 

I totally agree with you, the six months a year I spent in a tracksuit swimming training for the army championships was money well spent

[butchdickason]

Bullseye BB.

 

Butch.

[Bluebarrels]

I totally agree with you, the six months a year I spent in a tracksuit swimming training for the army championships was money well spent

And I totally agree plenty of down time for sports and training etc,but as im pretty sure you know plenty of time away from family,and plenty of dangerous times too BB

Edited June 18, 2013 by Bluebarrels

[kiffy]

The big problem with the army, and its always been the same, they don't train people for life outside the army. Those that have trades are only army specific trades that don't work so well in civvy street. Many come out virtually unemployable.

i have a lot of time for anyone in the military, they do a job i really wouldnt want to do but this is something ive heard before and my thoughts have always been the same... why should the military train you for another job? i mean if i went to work in ford building cars i wouldnt expect ford to train me how to be a carpenter incase i wanted to do that after i left...

[Bluebarrels]

When this Government requires fighting men for overseas conflicts ...... Go yourselves you cheapskates ... don't ask Territorials to risk their necks for nothing

firstly they should be in the TA because they want to be,no pressed men any longer and secondly,they wont be risking there necks for nothing,they will be getting paid and in a lot of cases double pay civilian/military pay(double bubble) BB

[pimpkiller]

" if i went to work in ford building cars i wouldnt expect ford to train me how to be a carpenter incase i wanted to do that after i left..."

 

no but you will be able to just go work for another car manufacturer or any other manufacturing industry in the same/similar job. I think the point is when your trained to kill hows that going to be transferable? obviously its not really like that but you know what i mean

[maxie]

THe U.K. is normally the biggest military spender in the world after the U.S.,China and Russia in that order.We normally tie for fourth place with the French.We spend a lot more than Germany which is a larger,richer country than us.

[ack-ack]

The bit that gets me is that the young lads get broken down and rebuilt as soldiers. They have their sights on being career soldiers and then they have the rug pulled from under their feet. Back on civvy street they will not experience the same esprit de corps that they had being part of a unit. How can they just slip back into normal life with no adverse effects? I really feel for them.

Edited June 18, 2013 by ack-ack

[Vince Green]

i have a lot of time for anyone in the military, they do a job i really wouldnt want to do but this is something ive heard before and my thoughts have always been the same... why should the military train you for another job? i mean if i went to work in ford building cars i wouldnt expect ford to train me how to be a carpenter incase i wanted to do that after i left...

No but the American army for example still has exceptional programmes for retraining people before they leave and also a lot of educational programmes giving nationally recognised qualifications during the whole of their service. They recognise there is an element of partnership which allows people to develop. People can come out with really good qualifications having gone in with nothing.

 

Years ago in the British army there were trades like carpenter, plumber, bricklayer, electrician etc. Now all those jobs are outsourced by the cuts.

 

It was one of the reasons traditionally that poor people went into the service. Join the army and learn a trade. Surely I'm not the only one who remembers the adverts

[lincs1963]

 

90.000 people though thats one hell of a lot of security especially bearing in mind the toys they play with

90,000, is nothing, what percentage of those do you think are actually fighting men? Not exactly sure of the figures but it is a very small percentage.

300,000 men were lifted from Dunkirk, they were chased off by a bigger,better army so our modern day 90,000 is a pathetic shadow of what used to be.

I think that in these troubled times we should not be reducing our armed forces. People who are against keeping the forces up to strength and who are involved in cutting it down would be the first ones to try and hide behind a squaddie when the brown stuff hits the fan.

[houlsby]

No but the American army for example still has exceptional programmes for retraining people before they leave and also a lot of educational programmes giving nationally recognised qualifications during the whole of their service. They recognise there is an element of partnership which allows people to develop. People can come out with really good qualifications having gone in with nothing.

 

Years ago in the British army there were trades like carpenter, plumber, bricklayer, electrician etc. Now all those jobs are outsourced by the cuts.

 

It was one of the reasons traditionally that poor people went into the service. Join the army and learn a trade. Surely I'm not the only one who remembers the adverts

That's what happens when corporate management steps in. Outsource everything, keep smacking them on the nose and fire your own.

 

It's the reason if got a job!

 

Keep the poor poor, and the rich rich..

[Lloyd90]

THe U.K. is normally the biggest military spender in the world after the U.S.,China and Russia in that order.We normally tie for fourth place with the French.We spend a lot more than Germany which is a larger,richer country than us.

 

 

Hardly something to go by ... they've lost 2 major wars

[fse10]

What rubs me up is on the radio yesterday 4000 more for the chop the next min on T.V add for the army are recruiting now! S o would seem they want some cheap new staff instead of combat experienced troops & i hoped this gov would have a clue.