gazzthompson Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Typical governments - just dive right in full throttle. There will be huge pushback from the industry - not because they do not want to lock porn, but because what they are proposing will be cumbersome, if not impossible to fully implement. Why not start softly and just offer a filter at te IP or DNS level. I suspect most parents will go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 just like everything technical in life if there is a man clever enough to design something there are several more capable of subverting it , i agree that children shouldnt be flooded with porn but apart from that i cant see how this is anything other than a public pleasing knee jerk reaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) Why will it take 2yrs, why arn't they pulling the plug ASAP? Edited July 22, 2013 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Ah well....better sell my computer now then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I have gun porn, Landrover porn & Stihl porn on my PC.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 David Cameron wants to crack down on online pornography. He's quite the expert; he's a massive ******, and is surrounded by cocks all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I am afraid I just do not get this if a site is reported to say google why do they not just check it out and if it is bad just shut them down and when they pop up again as they surely will do it again the same thing goes for phone bulling just shut the bad people down problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 This could be very bad news for spec savers and other opticians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philm Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Big Brother stamping his feet! they block this what's next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Of course, the protection of children must be paramount, however, I don't trust any of our politicians. What may be introduced under the banner of 'child protection' will soon be employed for its true purpose. 'Prevention of terrorism', 'Prevention of crime', 'Prevention of the illegal importation of endangered Pink Gooflangle Lillies' will all follow as the gummint becomes more and more desperate to control the masses and secure their positions and use catch-all terms to justify interference in everything. The other thing is, how many other legal searches will get prevented by the filters and how long before the term 'firearms' gets added? As others have said, put the effort into smashing the producers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) it says you can still chose to have it, the filters can be turned off, it just means you have to admit to being a porn surfer. as for stopping bad things not sure its really workable the net is global not just in the uk. just the other day we had a chap from here in china asking for ways he could view content the chinese banned (think it was youtube) and within 5 mins he was sorted. Edited July 22, 2013 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 it says you can still chose to have it, the filters can be turned off, it just means you have to admit to being a porn surfer As well as using Child Protection as a banner the politicians are famous for dressing up unpopular policies as 'giving us a choice' Once it became clear that everything privatised was going to cost three to five times more then they stopped saying that it would save the taxpayer money and, instead, told us it would give us a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) i think its more about votes than actually cleaning up the net its going to take ages if ever so its got longevity as a vote winner. it is however a little worrying that should they achieve it what else would they chose to filter, my money starts with wikileaks as the number 1 two things i do agree with cameron on is that it should be harder for children to view porn and they should make efforts to stop child porn on the net it will be a uphill battle if the uk still wants to be seen as a free country as to do this filters are inevitable. they also may underestimate children, at my daughters school all the kids used proxy servers to get round the schools internet security, theres some smart kids out there. Edited July 22, 2013 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 When I moved to virgin I had to phone and have the adult filter dropped as I could not look at the gun list on swillington shooting supplies hope this don't happen again, will they place a adult filter on for everything as in this case or just for porn , if its for everything a lot of sites will not be accessible :( I for one will have it removed if I can't access shooting sites gun lists etc ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 i don't think this will reduce porn access for teenage boys who want it (IE: nearly all of them). there will be reams of porn already out there, it will just get shared between smart phones / laptops, under the radar of ISP's. (a modern day version of the well thumbed copy of readers wives that used to circulate at my school!). i totally agree with restricting child abuse searches, images and hosting sites, they should put the extra resource into policing and investigating this instead of trying a blanket approach. The idea of asking to have porn from your ISP sounds great, but i bet a lot of men will not be wanting to tell the wife / girlfriend they want it! not me of course... :ninja: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I don't really see the point in this, if parents don't want their child looking at porn their is plenty of software out their what blocks websites etc. How are the government going to decide what websites are blocked? Their are millions upon millions. It will cost millions to implement... Does this also mean their going to block other pages like lacs etc as these show gory images etc they need to concentrate on the real issues... Not if some teenager wants to see a pair of tits... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 If this goes ahead, everyone who requests porn access will be in a database and that database will be misused. For example - Your name's on the porn viewer list? No chance of working with kids because you must be a perv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I don't really see the point in this, if parents don't want their child looking at porn their is plenty of software out their what blocks websites etc. How are the government going to decide what websites are blocked? Their are millions upon millions. It will cost millions to implement... Does this also mean their going to block other pages like lacs etc as these show gory images etc they need to concentrate on the real issues... Not if some teenager wants to see a pair of tits... To be fair, it is difficult to block. ISP's could do a lot more - and easily. Installing software on each device is futile as each device may have a different operating system - then you have guests/friends who visit. You need to filter at the router or even before it hits your router. I just configured a neighbours router to use the OpenDNS filtering nameservers. It is free, works from a single point covering all devices in the home regardless of operating system. I'm at a loss of words as to why ISP's don't offer this. It woud be a real boon to parents. Their lack of initiative in this area has led to this blunt instrument of a do postal from government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 now what do i do with it the misses dont want to play with it and now i cant might as well hit it with a brick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloggs Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I'm working out here in Dubai on a two year contract and all porn is blocked but simply downloading a VPN and setting it up so it thinks my IP address is in London and hey presto - www.porn.com it is, hurrah! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevorevans Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 It'll start with porn so the public will show some support for the whole idea of this type of censorship but it will then extend to other things that the dictatorship don't want you to see/hear/share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 its just a feeble attempt at vote winning, it won't stop kids being exploited will it? more like a sweeping it under the carpet and as the above person said a VPN network would bypass it anyway so if you where driven enought o want to view such content it wouldn't take a Nasa scientist to get around it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) The PM has just been on JV show and it's usual 'just an idea with very little detail but look, we've got to do something so we're talking to the companies'. Pretty pointless announcement in my opinion. Edited July 22, 2013 by KFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 The PM has just been on JV show and it's usual 'just an idea with very little detail but look, we've got to do something so we're talking to the companies'. Pretty pointless announcement in my opinion. i listened to that - i think it will fall down when the reality of the practical issues come to fruition. what a waste of bloody time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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