countryman Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 My Daughter who is nearly 23 and recently finished uni has been to various job interviews being made to do all kinds of team building exercises and what i would call being given the run around at her expense, but this last one really does take the p*** . She is called back to the office to what she thinks will be an offer for the job, only to see a younger girl there all so up for the job, the boss then gets them in a bidding war going down from the starting wage of 20 grand a year that was on offer, this other girl would do the job for 18 grand so my daughter reluctantly went the same, the other then went 16 grand, at this point my daughter walked away from it still being polite, if it had been me his desk would have been on his head, surely this can not be right. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitty tree Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 so they are starting a salary war now not just nil hours contracts. very sad to hear would not have happened in the seventies on site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Apparently it is common in some parts of China that once a year all the factory workers walk out and put themselves up for hire. The factory managers walk the line, negotiate a 12 month contract and hire who they can. Since employment is all about money and nothing to do with making a living then I think it's the inevitable next step Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I am so p**** off with this, when i think how hard she has worked to get her degree and the amount of debt that she has clocked up getting there only to come up against this sort of policy, back in the 90s when she was growing up, we as parents were told education is the key to a good job so you get it in there heads to work hard and go to uni, for what. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 its their money so i suppose they can pay it out just how they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I know how this feels in a way, Been in my job 5 year now but this new guy comes in straight out of college thinks he knows everything and gets paid well more than me for doing the same job as me. Im ****** off about this as Ive worked my *** off for this company and fell im getting done over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitty tree Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 all loyalty went out the window when maggie got in power . they all want you to go cap in hand . i think later on everybody will have to stand outside locked gates untill your selected to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 To say a job is 20 grand to get the applicants coming in, and then get the last 2 people bidding down there wage from there, no, not right. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Absolute disgrace. Name and shame them. When I have a vacancy I offer the going rate plus a bit more to hopefully attract and keep the best applicants. Doing what the OP has described is hardly likely to get the best commitment and loyalty from ones staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Companies that treat young/new employees like that deserve bringing to the attention of the press. I'm sure that there are loads of reporters that would give their right arm for a story about that sort of shameless behaviour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 That is a very bad employment practice and I would doubt the interview was with a "substantial" company. I would definitely make as many people aware of this as possible and if you can get the Media (not just newspapers, local TV are good) interested, thats great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I have sympathy for your daughter but I do get fed up when graduates expect to be able to walk into jobs. Back in the day this may have been true but these days everyone has got a degree and it you do A levels it's expected you will go to Uni. I think most people go for the 3 year drinking party and can't cope when they are unable to walk into a 30k job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I wanted to really go to town over this when my daughter came home and told me this today, but she seems to be just accepting this saying she has been on interviews hundreds of miles away from home only to be given the run around by what i would call jobs worths, at 47 i think i must be completely out of touch with what young people have to go through to get a good job today. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I may add that she has been working in a care home while applying for other jobs, she is not expecting to walk into a high paid job just like that, just getting the money that is said the job will start at. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Is it right? Hell no! Would I have accepted it as easily as your daughter appears to have done? Hell no! But, I'm in my mid 40's, skilled and never been out of a job. As such I have no idea what the current youngsters have to go through, but, this process can only end badly! Would you want to pick your workforce by who is the most desperate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I would not wish to work for a company like that, nor would any of my sons. If they treat you like that before you get the job, how many hoops of fire will you have to jump through to retain it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Pick your workforce from who is the most desperate? or pick your workforce from who will work for the lowest wage? well we all know the answer to that one anyone for some roasted swan/carp? that's where all this started sad when it comes to this sort of behaviour,knocking the stuffing outta people before they even start a career BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Personally I would have told the Guy, I am worth more than the £20.000 a year your offering, and find the whole idea of offering my services for less, insulting. As such I will not offer my services for any less than the £20.000. You have the option to accept that, or if you wish I will leave the room. Others who offer their services for less, obviously can not provide you with a level of service I can offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Pick your workforce from who is the most desperate? or pick your workforce from who will work for the lowest wage? All this does is push wages down until it becomes a case of ' I'll work for as little as you offer as I have no other option!'. Our Eastern European cousins won't stick around for long when the wages are no better than in Poland/Bulgaria/Latvia/Russia et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 That is a very bad employment practice and I would doubt the interview was with a "substantial" company. I would definitely make as many people aware of this as possible and if you can get the Media (not just newspapers, local TV are good) interested, thats great. I agree its bad practice but i'd avoid the media. Quite easy to get blackballed in some industries. Might be worth informing the university as they can relay information to next years grads. I would have been sorely tempted to take the job for buttons and string them along before telling them i'd done the numbers and its not financially viable. Probably just as career damaging though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 If I was forced to do this as an employer then I would chose the first person that said "No, I'm worth more than this and am confident in my ability to get a job elsewhere" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junctiontwo Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Absolute disgrace. Name and shame them. +100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Lodge Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Poke it! That would had been my response. Sounds like the bloke is a right toerag, your daughter is better of out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I think I'd have accepted the job, done it for a couple of months and then handed my notice in so the company had to train/accustom me and then waste all that time doing the same all over again. What goes around comes around. **** me about and I'll **** you about has always been my attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 If I was forced to do this as an employer then I would chose the first person that said "No, I'm worth more than this and am confident in my ability to get a job elsewhere" my thoughts exactually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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