deaquire Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Ok so on my land we have a lot of pheasants coming across. I believe that the pheasant seasons runs from 1st October to the 1st of Feb? If they're on your land, can you shoot them at any time of year? And what are you legally allowed to kill them with? (When on the ground, I don't mean in the air). I had several opportunities 2 days ago to shoot pheasants on the ground, but as I only rifle shoot I didn't know if you have to shoot them with a shotgun or if my rimfires will be ok? I've looked online but the answers seem to be vague. Thanks in advance, Edited October 23, 2013 by deaquire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Not sure of the legality but in season I have seen someone I know shoot Pheasant on the ground with a .22lr. They didnt go to waste. Although these were shot on an air field and that was done to prevent bird strickes etc, they still taste the same also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'm confused - you have posted the season and then asked if you can shoot them at any time of year? You can shoot them on the ground but that sort of defeats the object, shooting pheasants on the ground is not exactly challenging shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaquire Posted October 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'm confused - you have posted the season and then asked if you can shoot them at any time of year? You can shoot them on the ground but that sort of defeats the object, shooting pheasants on the ground is not exactly challenging shooting. I read somewhere that if the pheasants are on your land that you can shoot them at any time of year, regardless of season. Shooting rabbits with nightvision isn't exactly challenging, but plenty people still do it. If food goes in the pot, and you obtain it legally, what does it matter if it's a challenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) I read somewhere that if the pheasants are on your land that you can shoot them at any time of year, regardless of season. So does that mean the season only applies if you are shooting on someone elses land. The season applies every where and that is the only time you can shoot them. Edited October 23, 2013 by toontastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 You can only shoot them in season,and while it is correct you could shoot them on the ground with rimfire,it is hardly a sporting thing to do.Give them a chance and flush them with a dog and use a shotgun. Rabbits are vermin and cause damage and breed profusely that is why they are shot by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 iv never known to shoot them out of season,just stick to the seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I read somewhere that if the pheasants are on your land that you can shoot them at any time of year, regardless of season. Shooting rabbits with nightvision isn't exactly challenging, but plenty people still do it. If food goes in the pot, and you obtain it legally, what does it matter if it's a challenge? Why ask the question seems your mind is made up. Pheasants can only be shot from 1st Oct till 1st Feb.On the ground is up to you, not something I would do. Regards, Reggiegun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Using a shotgun is most peoples prefered method for pheasants, but if you don't have a shotgun and only have rimfire nothing to stop you grabbing a few for the pot. Happy eating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I dont know but troll comes to mind here . But any how , If you have game on your land that you own or rent and have permission from the land owner then you are allowed in law to pursue this game . Nobody is allowed to own wild game but it is pursuable on your land . If game wanders on to you land then you are within your rights to pursue it . Pursuing game generally means to shoot it in a sporting manner ,be it game birds or deer . Game can only be pursued legally with in the stipulated shooting seasons . Although their are times when game can be pursed out side of the shooting season under special circumstances , Yes you can shoot game birds on the ground if you really want to . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 And not on a sunday.I think and correct me if I am wrong they can only be shot on your perm providing you have permission from who holds the sporting rights to shoot any game other than vermin.and this may not be held buy the farmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I think harnser hit the nail here. loaded queation. just get a shotgun, your able to get an fac so shotgun will be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Ok, so I'll probably get shot down in flames for this, but,.............The op asked this question about pigeons a few months ago, ie, can he shoot them on the ground with a rifle(22lr I think from memory?) At the time he said he didn't have, want, couldn't afford another gun, ie shotgun. He had the same replies about it not being sporting. Now, using a shotgun to give the pheasant in this case a sporting chance, or provide the pursuer with greater sport, increases the likelihood of it being pricked or wounded over being shot with a rimfire. I have shot and do occasionally still shoot pheasants, with a shotgun. However, Its the same old argument, seems acceptable to use a shotgun with varying degrees of success, a few wounded here and there, but as soon as someone suggests using a rifle for any quarry, suddenly it all goes out of the window, surgical accuracy is expected. If the OP only has a rimfire and no shotgun, and fulfils the relevant criteria to put him in a legal/safe situation to shoot pheasants with a rimfire, then I think it its perfectly acceptable. I would far rather humane than sporting Now off to find an extinguisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I suppose i could take a rifle to the foreshore and shoot the roosting geese. its humane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I suppose i could take a rifle to the foreshore and shoot the roosting geese. its humane. Not without breaking the club rules you couldnt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Ok so on my land we have a lot of pheasants coming across. I believe that the pheasant seasons runs from 1st October to the 1st of Feb? If they're on your land, can you shoot them at any time of year? And what are you legally allowed to kill them with? (When on the ground, I don't mean in the air). I had several opportunities 2 days ago to shoot pheasants on the ground, but as I only rifle shoot I didn't know if you have to shoot them with a shotgun or if my rimfires will be ok? I've looked online but the answers seem to be vague. Thanks in advance, You are perfectly legal to shoot pheasants on your land with your rimfire during the relevent season as quoted above1st Oct till 1st Feb for pheasants, look on the BASC website for game and there seasons, generally no game to be shot on Sundays, your FAC normally says something like Ground Game and Vermin. (possibly now AOLQ.) At least you wont be breaking your teeth with lead shot. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Not without breaking the club rules you couldnt! what if it was a privatley owned marsh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 You are perfectly legal to shoot pheasants on your land with your rimfire during the relevent season as quoted above1st Oct till 1st Feb for pheasants, look on the BASC website for game and there seasons, generally no game to be shot on Sundays, your FAC normally says something like Ground Game and Vermin. (possibly now AOLQ.) At least you wont be breaking your teeth with lead shot He would need the AOLQ condition, Pheasants are not ground game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaquire Posted October 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I dont know but troll comes to mind here . But any how , If you have game on your land that you own or rent and have permission from the land owner then you are allowed in law to pursue this game . Nobody is allowed to own wild game but it is pursuable on your land . If game wanders on to you land then you are within your rights to pursue it . Pursuing game generally means to shoot it in a sporting manner ,be it game birds or deer . Game can only be pursued legally with in the stipulated shooting seasons . Although their are times when game can be pursed out side of the shooting season under special circumstances , Yes you can shoot game birds on the ground if you really want to . Harnser Certainly am not a troll - though I can see why people may think so. I assure you it is only a lack of information I have, and not a desire to wind you up. Thanks to the people with genuine answers to a genuine question - hadn't realised pursuing food for the pot could instigate such a negative reaction. Do we consider how difficult it was to slaughter a pig before we tuck into bacon? Or do we eat it, regardless of how it has been killed? At least a pheasant on the ground killed by myself, will have been killed quickly. I'm not into shooting for sport, but for meat on the table and land management through effective pest control as far as my own budget will allow. To the people saying "my mind is made up" etc etc. No, it isn't. It's why I asked the question, and it's why I'm glad I came on pigeon watch to begin with. Despite the negative and judgemental comments, there is still a massive amount of hugely helpful information to be gained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 what if it was a privatley owned marsh? As long as you had the correct conditions on your licence then i'd say it was legal, not 100% sure but cannot think of any laws which prevent it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I've shot a brace of partridge for the pot with an airgun before, the rest of the covey didn't even know what was happening. Would have been great if they had been driven over me and my shotgun but they weren't and I wanted a couple for eating. It's only tradition that says birds should only be shot in flight as a sporting target but life isn't always that black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Not without breaking the club rules you couldnt! Would the bullet be lead, pretty sure you would have to use none toxic on the marsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 popcorn and beer at the ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Would the bullet be lead, pretty sure you would have to use none toxic on the marsh. Non toxic shot only applies to shotgun ammunition. See http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/2170/made for England. As someone else mentioned the OP needs to make sure he has permission. It is quite common to get permission from say a tenant farmer to shoot vermin, but the shooting rights (for game etc) belong to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I have Avian on my 17hmr condition, originally for vermin control of geese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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