tharsus Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Thinking about a cheap semi and phoned the local shop to see what they have in and he mentioned the new escort with extended chokes and speed load, said it was ok with 28gr loads. Quick look on the net says 32gr up, anyone using one that could tell me what there like? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 It's not the shot size, but the length of the cartridge that causes problems. As long as you use 70mm (2 3/4) cartridges, you should be okay. You can also use 75mm (3") magnum cartridges through it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark a Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I use 70mm carts of 32gr #6 and it still jams on me. I don't use it now it just sits in the cabinet collecting dust. mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Chopped mine in for a Beretta Outlander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggthepool05 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Stay well clear 28g jam as awell it says gun should be able cycle 21g not a cance of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I've got the new escort and put everything from 21g upto 50 gram magnum thro and never had one shells jammed, probably put 3000 shells throu the gun in the last 6 month, so i must be lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 No you're not I only use 28g and have put around 12 to 15.000 through mine without a problem, just make sure they are 70mm. That being said it cycles Eley First (67mm) no problem at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Target Practice Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I got a new escort and it has its problems. I wish I had invested in something of better quality to be honest. See my escort thread re movement in the barrel.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Buy a catapult. Cheaper and more reliable. Seriously,a mate of mine has one that has never jammed but mine has done more jamming than Bob Marley and needs cleaning after every outing.If it's spotleesly clean it is just about ok,for about 20-30 shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 You could buy a second hand beretta semi auto for the money a new escort costs. I picked up a beretta a300 for 350 in excellent condition cycles every 28g I have put through it perfectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 My mates was jamming a lot of the times , a set of new gas seal from eBay there about £3 sorted the problem out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fse10 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 had mine a year over 1000 shells 28,32,36 & 50g 67.70 & 76mm never had a jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky68 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I've recently bought one, put about 1000 shells through it with out problems, got a winchester sx3 and a Benelli but prefer to shoot the escort, kill ratio is far better with it, can't praise it enough, hope that helps, only minor fault is the chokes tend to work loose and need checking regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouslemming Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I've put about 2000 rounds through an escort so far. I've had 3 jams. The first was with a 28gm cartridge about 2 months after I got it. I've since then had 2 jams on clays with 24gm cartridges. I use it for skeet, sporting clays, my 1 trip wildfowling and practical shotgun. I clean it regularly though including the gas ports. I watched a guy with an A400 a few weeks ago - he had more jams on one stand than I've had in 1.5 years. We were talking after, and he doesn't clean regularly. From what I can tell, all gas semi's need a little love and cleaning care. The Hatsan may need more than some, but I can't say because it's the only semi I own. There are 2 things I'd note though - Hatsan's idea of speed load may not be the same as other manufacturers. If it's the same model as I have, there is a tongue inside the lever that has to be pushed in to allow you to load a cart. This is better than the old system that needed a button to be pushed, but still a lot slower and more fiddly than many other guns. The second thing is that they come with a 3 year (I think) warranty. So if you do have issues, you've got ample time to get it fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blasterjudd Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 No no no dont buy an Escort ! Before you do decide just goto the Playpen section and read Reeceknights horror story when he bought one from New off Essex Gun Fennes ground in Braintree it will scare the life out of you and hopefully make u see sense! Best buy secondhand beretta or browning auto unless you like buying a semi you cant shoot ???? Good luck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark a Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I cleaned mine after every use but still jammed,put new o ring In made no difference. I think mine was made on a Friday afternoon. I'm no saving for a sx3 mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouslemming Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I cleaned mine after every use but still jammed,put new o ring In made no difference. I think mine was made on a Friday afternoon. I'm no saving for a sx3 mark Out of curiosity, did you buy new or second hand ? I'd send it back under warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I've had 2 hatsan 12b semis both worked great on 70mm and would only get a jam once in a blue moon with 67mm. One of mine hated fibre wadded cartridges too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) You could buy a second hand beretta semi auto for the money a new escort costs. I picked up a beretta a300 for 350 in excellentp condition cycles every 28g I have put through it perfectly Edited April 16, 2014 by fruity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza9t9 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I've just got a mk1 hatsan. Only been out with it once. It worked faultlessly with 70mm 29g carts. It felt fantastic, very comfortable infact I prefer it to my mossberg. I'm very pleased with mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfbee Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I've been sticking to 70mm carts and get 1 miss feed per slab. I used 65 mm carts at the w/e and got 1 miss feed in 50 shells. At the end of the day it's no biggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark a Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 it was a year old when I bought it and it came with some warranty. it has been back and was ok for a short time but the last time I used it I had to strip it down in the field In the dark. That was the last straw put it in the cabinet and that's where it stays. mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Mines had a few thousand through it and never missed a beat on 70mm 28 gram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharsus Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Might have a rethink fellas! Very mixed reviews, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 I bought mine from new....and yes...It jammed from new...every 3rd or so loading it would jam....Only took it out three times, quickly traded it for Beretta A300 Outlander...best trade I've ever made, never a problem since!! Save the extra cash, the Escort was a tad under £400, the Outlander £800 both new......!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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