strangford wildfowler Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Does anyone tip bit there dog in the hide as im thinking of doing it for the next time I'm out or does it put pigeons of the sound of him crunching ona biscuit? Daft question I know but its also to keep the dog content while not shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 if im shootin all day, i will take water and dog food..........i wouldnt tip bit a dog in the hide....as it would possibly get the dog to drop the birds in its haste to get back to food........remember that a dogs reward is being in the hide with you .... in the early days my dogs were all hyper to begin with and they were on screw leads......they will settle...just keep on at them..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Loud bangs from shotguns don't put them off, therefore..................... Does anyone tip bit there dog in the hide as im thinking of doing it for the next time I'm out or does it put pigeons of the sound of him crunching ona biscuit?Daft question I know but its also to keep the dog content while not shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 The only reward a dog should need is a retrieve , though if I am going for a long day I will give mine the odd biscuit and I always take plenty of water. As for the noise of it eating a biscuit are you serious ? pigeon may have good eyesight / hearing but considering any that come within 40 yards or so should be dead if your pigeon can hear a dog eating at 40 yards they are more highly developed than the ones in the uk , I have never had a problem while eating my crisps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Does anyone tip bit there dog in the hide as im thinking of doing it for the next time I'm out or does it put pigeons of the sound of him crunching ona biscuit? Daft question I know but its also to keep the dog content while not shooting I wouldn't have thought a pigeon would hear a dog eating a biscuit if they do dip them in your coffee first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I wouldn't have thought a pigeon would hear a dog eating a biscuit if they do dip them in your coffee first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Thanks men, marsh man very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 You could offer mine a rump steak or a mar's bar etc and all he would do is spit it out,when you have done shooting that is a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 If your dipping the biscuits in your tea stick a viagra tablet in the cup....It stops the biscuit snapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseapaul Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hi, you did not say what type of dog you had as some will sit content in hide more than others. I have a gsp for example that I originally used for hunting with birds of prey and he like spaniels despite being well trained always seem to be fighting there nature and want to be running around and working the hedge rows. It's like having a coiled spring sitting next to you. The noise concern with the biscuits would make no difference at all, it's movement in hide you don't want- no jumping through hoops for treats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 If you having issues its because you dint train for it. Been working on the dog settling by laying out between my legs facing away as last season he kept trying to sit close on my left hand side like we do on eve flight. MM, food? yep I give the dog a feed in the hide while shooting but the last thing I want is nudges and prompts from him so no not in training. Was rather hoping I could get to throwing a cover over us as consealment with the above laid in a muddy hole hole position, but we aint got there quite yet. If I sit the dog don't need telling he will come and sit with me, if I lie out then I am looking for the same automatic resonse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 If you having issues its because you dint train for it. Been working on the dog settling by laying out between my legs facing away as last season he kept trying to sit close on my left hand side like we do on eve flight. MM, food? yep I give the dog a feed in the hide while shooting but the last thing I want is nudges and prompts from him so no not in training. Was rather hoping I could get to throwing a cover over us as consealment with the above laid in a muddy hole hole position, but we aint got there quite yet. If I sit the dog don't need telling he will come and sit with me, if I lie out then I am looking for the same automatic resonse. lets hope the dog dont see you having a carp in the house! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted August 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Sorry my dog is well trained labrador I was just wanting to know whether I should give him tip bits through the day in the hide just to keep him going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Sorry my dog is well trained labrador I was just wanting to know whether I should give him tip bits through the day in the hide just to keep him going If you need to feed it tip bits to keep it content i'd say its not as well trained as you might think. My lab just lays down and goes to sleep, whether its the pigeon hide, woods or marsh. She knows not to bother getting up when i fire as shot as i've probably missed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireSam Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I share my lunch with my dog to keep him going...he is a noisy eater with crisps...but I don't think the pigeons notice. My dog waits expectantly for the fetch command after each shot ...... then after about 10 shots he gives me a disappointed look and lies down for a nap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I only ever feed my dog by hand in a hide or creak. He shares whatever I'm having. He has never begged as such and knows when in doors he will only be fed from the bowl. When we are out he knows the difference and has a good scoff of my snap with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 If you need to feed it tip bits to keep it content i'd say its not as well trained as you might think. My lab just lays down and goes to sleep, whether its the pigeon hide, woods or marsh. She knows not to bother getting up when i fire as shot as i've probably missed! And when you do shoot something my dog picks it for you 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 And when you do shoot something my dog picks it for you I don't know why i bother owning one really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted August 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 basically I want to know should I give him tipbits to keep his energy leval good when out in the hide all day and I know about bringing water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I would say it depends on how much work the dog has done or the circumstances. When my dogs been in the beating line all morning I give her a small amount of her food at the same time as I have my dinner. If I pick up and shes not had to work quite so hard she may just get a few bits. In a pigeon hide when its warm she would get nothing. When we have done the morning flight on the marsh and shes been wet and working she gets about a third of her daily allowance when she gets home. its a long day until 6pm from 2am for her after a hard morning flight. I hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I would say it depends on how much work the dog has done or the circumstances. When my dogs been in the beating line all morning I give her a small amount of her food at the same time as I have my dinner. If I pick up and shes not had to work quite so hard she may just get a few bits. In a pigeon hide when its warm she would get nothing. When we have done the morning flight on the marsh and shes been wet and working she gets about a third of her daily allowance when she gets home. its a long day until 6pm from 2am for her after a hard morning flight. I hope this helps.+1 As for tit bits only the corners of my sandwich there usealy to muddy from my fingers for me 😀 Seriously feed your dog for the work its done and the weather conditions your working it in and give it a sensable time after food before more work All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 You could offer mine a rump steak or a mar's bar etc and all he would do is spit it out,when you have done shooting that is a different story. Thats how it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 lets hope the dog dont see you having a carp in the house! lol Nope we use the toilet for that all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Thats how it should be. It is but I doubt it, the last guy that said that his dog accepted a bit of my sandwich. I know I shouldn't have but it was funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 my young springer wont have anything she,s so keyed up,she wont eat till we pack up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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